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1936 Dot Penny?

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 Posted 02/18/2013  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

There are die pit examples that mimic the dot.

There was a person in the Maritimes, I think last year, who was absolutely convinced (insert endless dancing bananas) that they had a legitimate business strike dot, but it turned out to be one of these die pits (although they were never convinced).
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 Posted 02/18/2013  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add That Canadian Guy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know what to say other than to get a professional opinion. Looking foreword to more details on this.
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 Posted 02/18/2013  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried to get better photos and took pictures of the penny through my magnifier. I apologize for the poor quality and shoddy photography. I'm new to coin collecting and a lousy photographer to boot.

When I look at these pictures, I don't think it's a dot anymore. It doesn't look like the real dot. It's also certainly not as prominent. Regardless, I will take it to my local coin dealer to take a look at it. I suspect he'll tell me, it's just wishful thinking. It was a nice few hours imagining what it might be like to have this...

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 Posted 02/19/2013  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would also hope you have a real 'dot' cent cookiecutter, but the 'dot' looks it should be more in the middle of the 9 and 3, this one seems to be off side some and, also doesn't seem big enough.

But, like the others said, send it in to make sure.
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 Posted 02/19/2013  08:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bm0ney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Similar placement to the photo in 2013 charlton.
Neat coin. Chip, dot, crud, whatever it is it captures the imagination and is cool.
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 Posted 02/20/2013  06:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1945V to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
cookiecutter,

I would say it is not a 1936 dot, but a die anomaly.

If you look at the confirmed 1936 dot penny photo in the link below

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story...auction.html

you can draw a straight line through the two big dots (above "ONE" and below "CENT") and the small dot below 1936.

The dot in your photo seems to be off to the right.
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with 1945..The true dot is centered ..Yours is off to the right therefor it cannot be the real deal
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 Posted 02/20/2013  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cookiecutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the opinions all. I haven't had a chance to visit my dealer yet, but after taking the close-up photos, I also didn't think it was the genuine dot. It's been a neat few days "fake" imagining what it might be like if I had the elusive dot penny. It's still a neat coin to have in my collection, and found in a circulation roll no less.

Maybe I'll affectionately call it the dud dot penny on my flip.
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 Posted 02/20/2013  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john517 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The true dot was not centered they were hand placed. Living examples show the dot closer to underneath the 3 then centered.
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It is "a" dot, but it is not THE dot.
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Doesn't seem centered enough.
I remember a locked forum several months ago also concerning a dot cent from circulation.
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Since there is at least one 36 dot coming up in an auction this year (maybe 2), then these discussions usually serve as a prelude to them. This is also being discussed on other forums. You can take what "carpman" and "Aussie Bob" say on the CCRS site http://www.canadiancoin.com/ Also fakes and forgeries have been around for years with these, as are many pits in the working die that cause what appear to be dots, but aren't. Also be on the look out for any poster named "Dean" as any discussions about 36 dots bring he and his followers out of the woodwork .. don't believe the conspiracy theories about other placements and hijinks. Discussions about 36 dots always are good for a page or two of spirited comment, regardless the site.
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We could call this one the "poor mans dot".
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I think that expression, "poor man's dot" is already a term used to describe Zoell variety 'dots' between the 2nd and 3rd leaf on the left side of the 10-cent piece (Zoell Z258d) and on the King's neck of the 1-cent coin.

To follow up Bill's post above, Dean is also CCF member, and here are some links to start, if you want to go down that road:

http://1936dots.blogspot.ca/2010/03...gs-1936.html

https://goccf.com/t/121977

https://goccf.com/t/122578
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