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1998 Reverse Planchlet Error

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Found roll searching. Looks like a planchlet flaw to me.
Any ideas? 1998 P


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(me too).
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Looks like the planchet was flawed before striking. Maybe a pre strike lamination error. Hopefully Mike Diamond will chime in.
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The marks are incuse. Then something must have been on the die's field when it struck this coin.
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Coop, if that were true, then wouldn't there be signs of this anomaly across the upper left of the memorial. Of course I believe the same could be true for my theory as well.
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Does this help any? https://goccf.com/t/112465
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Agree with coop,the design is incuse so scraps would only affect the fields.
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If the area in question is incuse, how can it be from a feeder finger. In order to appear incuse on the planchet, it would have to be a raised are on the die. Seems to me a scrape from a feeder finger would take metal away from the die face, not build it up. And a struck through would disturb the devices.
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Here is another example:
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The anomoly is just in the field areas and incuse. Something on the die pushing into the planchet during the strike. Just in the outside portions of the die. If the die was damaged, then the anomoly would have been raised and not incuse.
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Like a strike through? This is what I thought you meant before. Then John suggests feeder fingers. That is why I questioned John's analysis. A feeder finger would leave a raised impression on the planchet, not incuse like the OP's coin.

Why does it not appear on the devices. What ever was on the die, wouldn't it get sucked into the incuse parts of the die, or block off altogether. Both of these would result in an abnormal looking device.
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Seal you are correct. Feeder finger scrapes are raised. The reason the devices aren't affected as they are deeper into the die. The fields are on the outside part of the die. On the OP coin it appears the die may have picked up something that may have some grit into the substance and leaves the deeper incuse portions on the coin. where looking at very small amounts that are only touching the outside (field) portion of the die.
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Thanks Coop
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This has been a great discussion - thanks!
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Yes, it is amazing what info you can get when you ask the right questions.
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So defective planchet or Feeder Finger Damage?
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