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What's the deal with the roll scams on ebay. @ They show good dates on the end of the rolls but then nothing from the other 48. All my purchases have proven that way. |
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Well, since they aren't selling bad items (e.g. there are 50 coins in the cent rolls), and the person buying them is basically gambeling, and it is hard to define what unsearched means legally (e.g. I meant unsearched for this certain die and not by date when I sold them) people continue to do it.
But yes, you are correct, they are basically a scam. I've seen them with silver dimes on the end of a penny roll or even an ancient Roman coin on the end.
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Why do you ask what the deal is, you just explained it yourself. Put two better coins on the ends of the roll and sell dreck at a much higher price than it is worth to people with stars in their eyes hoping for a big kill. The only person who gets get a big kill is the seller.
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03/01/2013 2:10 pm
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If a wife, friend, business partner or family member searches the rolls then sells or gives them to you, technically, these are unsearched (by you) and you are telling the truth (sort of).
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All my purchases have proven that way. ALL? How many?  My grandpop had some very wise words for me when I was a yonker and hit myself in the head with a hammer... He said Boy... Don't do that again. He didn't really have to tell me though. |
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The deal is simply that you just paid more than $.50 for 50 cents.
Don't keep doing it....duh.
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03/01/2013 2:44 pm
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Let's not all pile on samQ. He's a new member and we don't need to scare him away.  Sometimes we want to believe what isn't there. More than likely, we have all made a bad purchase or two (or three). I know I've had my share. My friend once told me that you're not a real picker unless you make some mistakes. Yes, not the same ones twice but honest mistakes. Stick around Sam. There is much to learn from this forum. Edited by mds308
03/01/2013 2:55 pm
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Welcome to the forum Sam. And yes, they have been scamming people this way for years. And this type of scam does not just occur in coin collecting. It occurs in many other collecting type hobbies. HH and GL
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Actually, you did NOT pay more than 50 cents for 50 cents. The coins on the ends of those rolls are worth more than 50 cents by far. It is a simple rule to follow on those rolls. Bid ONLY based on what is shown on the ends. If there is a FE there you like, bid to the appropriate amount, say 30 bucks, for that coin. STOP at the amount that coin is worth. Simple. I have gotten a couple of these rolls and lost bids on many more because I won't go over that amount. The couple I have gotten had exactly what was pictured on the end, and decent but common date pennies for the rest. If you operate under those rules, the rolls are actually not a bad deal. And Edited by smokeriderdon
03/01/2013 8:44 pm
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I have a roll of searched pennies with a mystery dime somewhere inside! 1916d? you don't know! Any takers?
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to CCF samQ! |
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Sam, Please allow me to give you a piece of advice from my grampa, who is a very wise man: "If it looks too good to be true, it is." These lots are scams, flat out. By making you believe the roll could be worth thousands of dollars, the seller bumps bids up into the hundreds of dollars . . . for a roll that's really worth about $50, max. Unfortunately, this is perfectly legal because of the reasons pointed out above ("Unsearched . . . I MEAN FOR DIE VARIETIES" "Unsearched . . . by me" "It's a 1909! Is it an S?"), but highly unethical. Do yourself a favour . . . . stick around, learn, and let some of the experts here point you in some good directions. I'd rather pay ten bucks for an honest rare-date problem coin as a hole filler than pay the same ten bucks for an "unsearched" roll. At least with the problem coin, I know what I'm getting. |
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When ebay surpassed a billion bids every month, nothing surprised me - and that was years ago. As P.T. Barnum is credited - "There's a sucker born every minute"I bought one of these rolls on a whim once, and actually wasn't half bad some teens and twenties a nice fine 1800's Indian and an EF Seated dime with issues big scratch on the obverse. Oh well I paid less than I ended up selling them, but didn't make more than a few dollars. Plus I still have a bunch of the common Wheaties left over. The wrapper roll was actually pretty old, and not a modern made one, so I'm keeping a new roll of cherried Lincolns wrapped in it, maybe they'll become toned monsters in a couple of decades.  Overall I think a lot of the bids are by "spur of the moment" type purchases, mine was. I was browsing coin auctions ending on ebay that night and saw it, the roll was cheap enough and thought "what the heck" took a chance not really caring if I won or not - I won  "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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You have to remember, real old rolls of pennies don't all have dimes, tokens, or other denominations placed at the end. I have bought unsearched items from ebay that were not advertised as such (I bought 200 V nickels that had a Shield nickel mixed in). If I buy a bag of wheat pennies at the coin shop or show and don't search them, they have been unsearched by me but you know the dealer searched it. Unfortunately those rolls don't have much in them I would imagine, just wheat cents worth 2 to 3 cents a piece. You can get the same thing at the bank in there rolls. Those rolls are really gambling and you know what they say about that, the house always wins. Edited by buddy16cat
03/02/2013 04:11 am
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