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 Posted 04/12/2013  4:46 pm Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This is what I won on ebay...http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-SMALL-...p=true&rt=nc

This is what I got......


1970-S-Small-Date-Lincoln...

He obviously didn't get as much as he wanted for it so he made up a story about sending me 3 steelies by "mistake" and cant seem to find my small date Lincoln now. Watch it show up on his listings in the near future.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And that add said 3 available. This is just a typical problem with ebay. Most people don't mention all these problems, they only brag about all the good deals. Sort of like a gambler. They tell you about all the winnings, never mention the loosings. Not that this makes you feel any better but hopefully you complain to that guy and hopefully something good comes of it all.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! You were going to pay 17 dollars for an edited photo of a 1970s? He changed the color of the penny.

I'm sorry to hear you got scammed though.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now how do you know it was an edited pic ? How can I tell in the future ?
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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ram96 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would try to contact him first through ebay. If that does not work, file a claim through ebay. If you do it on their site they can track it and help you resolve the issue.

I sell a lot on ebay and hate when people do transactions like that. I they don't get reported, they will continue to do it if he was trying to scam you.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh I got a refund but I wanted that coin.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ram96 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry you did not get the coin, but I am glad he did not rip you off.

I would make a note of what happened in his feedback.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay Ray, it's kind of hard to prove this and explain it but trust me I know I'm right.

Front
1. If you look at the photo you see white dots on the coin.
2. The coin has black on it.
3. The coin is fuzzy a little.

Back
4. Different color background, plastic, and coin.
5. Some white dots and fuzzy. (same as three)

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1. White dots can happen from bad pictures and bad editing skills. ( such as, changing color, resizing.
2. This can happen from changing lightness on coin.
3. This happens from resizing. Or if you change the contact this also causes fuzz.
4. Now this one is tricky, he could have changed the lighting. And that's what he did. But he also changed the color of the coin lightly.


I understand changing the size is not really editing. But changing the color and light is. ( I mean light of the photo, not the light shining down on it.)
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 Posted 04/12/2013  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you should consider yourself to be lucky that you have your money back. Like the majority of purported 1970-S Small Dates on ebay, the chances that the coin was actually a Large Date is quite high because it seems like most people on ebay have no clue how to recognize a SD. The tiny scans do not instill confidence in the seller either Do not purchase a SD on ebay unless the seller provides pics large enough and clear enough to definitively identify the coin as a SD.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was gambling a bit but I'm pretty dang sure that's a small date in the pic.
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Just my opinion ... but I agree with Ray, I think it is a small date, mostly from the mushy "Liberty", although I would like to see a close up of the date.

As for the white dots .. I am thinking they could be on the Ait-tite. For the color difference, when I take pictures .. I don't know how to set the white balance
on my camera, so when I re size in picasa3, I do a auto correction. That seems to bring the coin back to the actual color. IMO - seller did a auto correction on the reverse .. but forgot to do it on the obverse.

Of course if the photo experts .. say different .. I would go with them.

As for the coin .. I think you would have made a good deal at that price.

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 Posted 04/12/2013  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah it would've been a killer deal if I had gotten the coin. I've been watching small dates for awhile.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  7:30 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Solo !
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HAHAHAHA...classic ebay. Like Bio said, most of the "small dates" I've seen on ebay are actually large dates. If you're interested in one in MS red, shoot me a PM. I have almost a whole roll of them.
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 Posted 04/12/2013  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add solotime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a question Bad, what do they cost about? Perhaps, I might have one so I will check over mine.

@Ray, you welcome :)
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 Posted 04/12/2013  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm thinking MS63-64 to be around 20 to 25 bucks but I'm not sure if that's up to date prices.
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