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1909 S VDB Lincoln

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Please grade my 1909s VDB Lincoln Cent

1909-S-VDB-Lincoln
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 Posted 05/08/2007  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sleaklight to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
flawless! I love it, I offer a million dollars for it lol
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 Posted 05/08/2007  9:48 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry to say but it's not a 1909 s VDB. there is no proof of that. the error is called a Blank Planchet. it never was struck in the first place. I believe the going price for a blank planchet is $3 but I don'tknow about if both sides are blank. someone will be along to give you a more detailed explanation then I.

I recommend taking Sleaklight's offer before he has buyers remorse.
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I changed my mind lol
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But graceoutcast how do you know it was not a 1909 SVDB just because it never got struck does not mean it was not from the 1909 SVDB run now does it.... if a blank slips through the mint processing and falls into the same bucket as all the other 1909sVDB's being minted does not that make this the ultimate 1909sVDB error?

I think sleaklight is trying to low ball me. Maybe he has you in tow to make me think I have just a copper disc so I will accept his offer.

If I take him up then sure as eggs is eggs it will be up on ebay within a week at 5 million.
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Did you try to grade this yourself? I would suggest you send it to one of those "special" TPG's that some of those ebay sellers use.
Maybe XYZ Grading company or ZZZ Grading company and see what they say. I'm sure if you get it properly graded and slabbed it will bring top dollar on ebay. Do you have any of the new Washington Dollars that are struck 100% of center too.
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 Posted 05/08/2007  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you weighed it yet?
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Sorry, that's a 1914-D, I'm surprised you missed it.
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OK, NH, ya got me! Have you set a price on it yet? If so, I'm prepared to make an offer right now. Remember who offered first!

Fred

PS - Depending upon how you answer, I may have to move the topic to B/S/T...
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Morgan Fred feel free to make an offer but I did not say it was for sale. I have an idea what I would sell it for but that the issue I put it here for all you experts to look at and come up with a grade. After all in these days of Market grading a point here or there can make a huge difference in price.

Halfabustisbetter. You may be correct. It may be a 1914-D but this would pose certain time problems as it was in the middle of a BU fed wrapped roll of 1909SVDBs bought in 1909. To think that the Mint were so far ahead in their minting and that one not due for release for another 5 years ended up in a roll of 1909s makes me think I low balled my estimate on its value. I will have to rethink its worth. Upon what diagnistics do you base your claim or 1914-D :-)
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I can positively identify this coin as a 1909 S VDB error, it's identical to the 3 I have. However, I believe it has been cleaned, and therefore it's not worth one cent over $500K.
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Man, you have got to put it on ebay. It will go for a grand. Those guys believe almost anything. And to think I just sold one for $5.
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It's obviously Denver copper, not San Francisco. It's got the changes typical for the altitude.
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OK fine it's a 1909 D VDB. My mistake
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I just got done with a rough day at work, and this is just what I needed. Thanks, Richard, but I think I'll pass on this purchase.
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Richard, to answer your original post for a request for a grade I notice everyone else has dodged your request), I'd have to state that it doesn't appear it would grade above VF-30 or -35. Presuming it's not cleaned (very difficult to determine many types of cleaning from images, but I think not in this instance), the circulation marks on the rims on both the obverse (at 11, 1, 2, and 4 o'clock) and the reverse (12:30, 4, 5, and 6 o'clock) and in the fields on both sides would tend to keep the grade down if submitted to a top TPG. There also appears to be a gouge at the 4 o'clock position on the obverse, but I don't think it's serious enough to warrant a body bag. I think the circulation marks are too severe to make it XF but I could be wrong (market grading, y'know); I do tend to grade rather harshly. Of course, we're charting new territory with regard to the condition of the devices.

I hope this provides you with enough information regarding your eventual decision whether or not to submit it to a top TPG for slabbing.

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