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If you have a coin for sale that was slabbed but then you broke it out... Can you list it for example as certified MS63 as long as you note very clearly several times that the coin is no longer in a slab?

I want to sell some raw coins of mine that were slabbed, and I want them to pop up in the search for certain grades, but I need buyers to know they are no longer slabbed. Is that against the rules, should I just list everything as raw?
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I imagine raw at this point but put a picture of the cert in the pictures.
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I wouldn't, just for the fact that it could be asking for trouble. Some naive buyer, no matter how clear your pictures or description, could end up with it and cause trouble for you because it wasn't still certified in the slab.

I'd list it as raw with that grade unless you have some way to prove beyond a doubt that it used to be in in that slab.
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Can you list it for example as certified MS63 as long as you note very clearly several times that the coin is no longer in a slab?


No, you may not. You cannot list a numerical grade for a coin listing - in the title or the copy - unless that coin is in an approved slab. For that matter, you can't even mention a reference value. Your best bet is images of a quality which make the grade plain.
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Once its out of the slab its out of the slab. I dont see a problem with calling it an MS uncirculated and noting in the description you cracked it out of the MS63 slab, but the search for grades thing specifically has an ungraded option for coins that arent in slabs.
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Didn't know it was against the rules to assign a grade. I was wondering why the raw coins always just said "uncirculated" or "Gem BU" instead of the sellers trying to arbitrarily assign MS62+ or whatever.
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Tet they switched it a few months back, maybe a little longer than that when they decided that only PCGS/NGC/ANACS/ICG slabs could be listed with grades to try and clean up the sellers looking to take advantage of unsuspecting buyers. You can kind of figure out what grade is being assigned to it if its a buy it now or they start the auction with a minimum bid
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Yeah that was my problem. You can't even list a specific grade unless it is slabbed. That's the only reason I would consider noting it as slabbed. But I guess to avoid future problems, I need to just sell as raw.
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Since it is broken out of the slab, I would consider this to be now a raw coin. It is against ebay policy to list a coin with a number grade if it is raw.
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Murr is you arent worried about a quick sale your best bet is probably to list it at a 63 price and wait for someone to agree
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list it as raw with the grade but not the certification.
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list it as raw with the grade


Not allowed.
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You can use an adjectival grade(Good, Fine, Extremely Fine, Uncirculated, etc) but you cannot list a Sheldon numerical grade(G-4, VF-20, EF-45, MS-65, etc).
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Funny thing is, I've been selling off my 7070, I've sold off about 10 coins so far.... they were all broken out of slabs but I sold each coin for more than I paid and I was selling them as raw. I guess it's nice to have au55 and au58 coins that look ms. Buy them at au price and sell at ms. lol. Wasn't trying this on purpose but it worked to my advantage. Like my 1917 type 1 SLQ. Bought au55 for $173 and it sold raw for $240. Weird cause I had it buy it now for $215 but people insisted on bidding.
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Yes, you can list your coin with an adjective like fine, good, or, very fine. They can be applied to anything like a very good bicycle or a fine automobile.
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You can however do what I do. In the description and/or specifics, if the coin was originally XF45 for example, you can put XF+ but not in the title. I've never had a problem.
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