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Romania
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I tried to make some pictures of the coin in the title. I have some questions marks about it, so I would like some opinions. The weight is 26.96, 39 - 40 mm diameter, flan slightly bend toward the center. Thanks!    Edited by bogdanjovi
05/21/2013 03:34 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Nice 8 Reales, however it is not from Mexico, it is from Bolivia. The monogram for the mint at Potosi is located between "REX" and "8R" on the reverse side. It is a common date but a great coin to spark your interest in collecting Spanish Colonial coins.
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Valued Member
 Romania
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@ jfransch: My mistake about the mint in the original title. I knew it, but I was thinking at another coin I bought same time, Mexico mint. Which will be subject to another debate as soon as I am clear about this one.
What about the origin? Can it be real or a transfer die counterfeit?
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05/21/2013 03:45 am
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Hong Kong
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Nice! I find no query about the authenticity of this coin. I have one that of same year, the edge's squares and circle look very similar. Nearly the same weight and diameter. My coin has two edge overlaps, do you also see two edge overlaps from your coin, bogdanjovi? Henry
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Romania
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@wonghinghi: the edge is showing the overlaps, one very clear, one less visible as the edge is a little damaged in that sector. The question marks are coming from the following:
inside triangle A from Carolus
there are sectors where the border is not 90 degrees, 1-2 mm space between face print and edge relief
some diagonal scratches in some sectors of the edge
Unfortunately I did not manage to make photos that catches last 2 points. |
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France
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Guys, the edge circle look like squares to me (the two ones near the fingers).
If there are diagonal lines on the edge, this could be the famous copies we keep discussing about here.
Any other opinion ?
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Tomorrow I'll try to add some more pictures of the edge, to bring more clarity on the edge aspect. I do not know yet how to capture in the pictures the scratches, but I'll try to figure it out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Genuine. Hint of original luster throughout (especially the protected areas). The areas you're seeing where the legends look "closer" to the rim are the result of being slightly off-centered, on a smallish planchet (which is typical for this date, in contrast to some earlier years at Potosi).
The filled A... something like that can be a telltale on fakes but that could happen on a genuine strike as well. Nothing about the strike or the surfaces aside from that is odd.
Edge pattern looks typical for Potosi, cruder geometry than Mexico.
One interesting point, as jfransch said, this is a common date... very common. TON of them out there. Something to take note of perhaps from swamperbob's perspective? Or just high production that year...
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Thank you all for the comments!
Anyway, as soon as I find some time, I'll try to add some more photographs. Is there anything that worth showing for a better perspective?
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@ wonghinghi: I am not able for now to post better images with the coin. My photo camera already done his best. Sorry about this...
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Hong Kong
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Just don't want to open a new thread for a question of a Latin 8R, I share this post for the query of the autheniticity of this coin. Do anyone possess the same coin? Is the weight of this Bolivian 8R correct? Is this coin genuine? Glad if you can share your opinion here. Please see: http://www.ebay.com/itm/18121320988....m1438.l2649 |
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The Potosi mint was not making coins of a quality comparable to Mexico.
They had also edging which were not as nice, so I can totally be wrong :)
I just find suspect the way the circle look - not much like circles but a bit like squares. I remember swamperbob mentionned this sometime ago.
Swamperbob, can you chime in ? :D
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Tough call. The coin looks good, the seller is top notch but the weight is way too low. A freshly minted 8 reales should hit 27.06 on the scale or very close to it. Allowing for some wear I would accept a mid 26 gr weight but at 25.7 alarms are going off for me. Since this coin is a common date (there is a 1780/79 over date that is quite scarce but this does not appear to be it), I would suggest holding off for a full weight coin, one is sure to come along if you are patient.
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