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Ladies, why does it seem like 99% of all coin collectors are male?

I've met maybe one or two female coin collectors in my life.

What is it about coin collecting that attracts men but not your fellow women? Any ideas?
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I asked my wife and she said that coin collecting is too detail oriented, and too chronological... whatever that is. She said stamps would appeal to her more because they are more colorful, but she hasn't collected stamps since she was a teenager.
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Ladies, why does it seem like 99% of all coin collectors are male?


The obvious answer would be because its true
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You aren't imagining it, or experiencing a statistical anomaly. The topic has been raised numerous times before: see here and here for some old polls, and some country-specific discussion in the Canadian and Australian subforums.

There is a cultural, and even geographical, effect in play here. The gender ratio is much closer to parity in Britain, New Zealand and in Western Australia than it is in North America, Europe and eastern Australia.

It's also a self-reinforcing bias. Women are less likely to get into the hobby in the first place, and less likely to persist in it long enough to become a fully-fledged coin collector, if it's perceived as a "guy thing". Once the female ratio drops low enough, the stereotyping can turn to prejudice - for example, if a brick-and-mortar coin dealer hardly ever get serious female coin collectors through their door, they'll assume any woman walking through their door isn't going to be a serious collector.

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I asked my wife and she said that coin collecting is too detail oriented, and too chronological... whatever that is.

This is at best only a partial explanation. American coin collecting is very much "detail oriented" (looking for VAMS and such) and "chronological" (seeking completion of date sets). European coin collecting is much less focused on these aspects of the hobby, yet the lack of female participation is just as noticeable in Germany as it is in America.
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He He men are little boys who collect anything according to most women. I know thats what my wife tells me. He He me still laughing on that one. But you want to hear something really funny.......WE ARE!
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The TRUTH shall set you free.....I've been told.
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I am female. I collect coins. I have no idea why it's a "guy thing," because women are active in (and even dominate) other collectible areas.

I am surprised to find that there is more gender parity in (some) other countries. Interestingly, in America, I've found that most collectible types are dominated by one or the other gender. Sometimes, it makes sense (dolls, baseball cards), but sometimes it baffles me (electrical insulators, coins, postcards). Perhaps it is the "tipping point" phenomenon that Sap refers to.

I will confirm Sap's suggestion that we women are sometimes treated as interlopers at LCS's. Fortunately, the internet seems to level the playing field. And of course, quality dealers understand that men and women pay with the same color of money!

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Sometimes, it makes sense (dolls, baseball cards), but sometimes it baffles me (electrical insulators, coins, postcards).


I know women are better, in general, at color coordination and decorating. I am an avid insulator collector and cannot believe that something this colorful and bright (think stained glass windows which it seems everyone loves) does not draw more women collectors.

I also find non-Caucasian collectors are rare in the insulator hobby.

Is this the same with coins? I am not around enough coin collectors/shows to know.

And, if so, I wonder what factor it is that makes these ratios a reality if it be coins or insulators?
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Is this the same with coins? I am not around enough coin collectors/shows to know.


I wouldnt go as far as saying rare like seeing a lone female at a gun show, but the average collector is without a doubt an older white male from my observations.
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Many reasons for this. One is the most obvious. When kids are little, most parents tend to involve their kids in either girl or boy stuff. Boys are given guns, tanks, trucks, boats, etc. Girls are given dolls, little people, doll dresses, etc. It all starts there. When it comes to coins, stamps or collecting anything, it is usually a boy that is started with that. Some parents will even take a boy fishing but seldom a girl. Same take a boy hunting with a gun. All such things in a kids past develope them to what they will become and coins are seldom, if ever, given to a girl for a hobby starter. Look around at any hobby type show. How many people bring a girl? Yet if someone does bring a kid, it is usually a boy.
Another factor is a female spends so much time involved in motherly type affairs and men just don't. For example how many men are in a PTA at a school? How many men drive their kids to schools or day care places? How many men shop for food, clothing, school supplies, etc? Women usually do all that which leaves little time for almost any hobby.
Some of those reasons are why you don't see women at coin shows, stamp shows, gun shows, knife shows, boating shows, car shows, etc.
I sometimes wonder if men are afraid to get a girl involved in anything except girl stuff. Hold over from when women were only supposed to cook, raise kids and do the shopping.
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I will confirm Sap's suggestion that we women are sometimes treated as interlopers at LCS's


I agree with ProfLiz there; it also happens at shows. I can tell a difference between when I am alone and when my husband is with me. Even when he is with me, dealers (unless they know me) will defer to him. It is what it is and I do not let it bother or discourage me. Their lost sale as far as I am concerned.

I think the problem with asking non-collecting women why is that they don't collect coins. Let me explain. Why do I not collect baseball cards? Because I am not interested. It has nothing to do with learning stats or the game (I do enjoy a good baseball game), I am just not interested. And as far as women not being detailed oriented as some have suggested, I think you are bit off base there.

I believe just carl has an interesting point about what boys and girls are geared towards. My father had no qualms letting me play with dump trucks, encouraging me in math and science, signing me up for Little League (in the '70's he fought for the right for me) and, most importantly sharing his coin collection with me. He was wise enough to realize I was interested in these things and allow me to explore all of my interests. I am not afraid of being ostracized for my interests (Thank you Little League!) and am the happier for it. I also believe that is why having some sellers treat me differently doesn't bother me.
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I believe there is a strong male bias in overall numbers - however I believe any general prejudice is much less when dealing with ancients collectors. In that particular field I know of quite a few female collectors who have strayed over from either historian or historical art type areas of interest - and are equal to if not vastly superior to male collectors in the same field when it comes to knowledge. And they are highly respected for it too.

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Perhaps previous societal norms have carried through - on a lag, if you will. Back when males went to work and females stayed home, males would have access to the money much more readily - I suppose there would be more collectors in expensive things (comics, cards, coins) with money, so males would do that - relatively cheap hobbies (button collecting, knitting etc) would be far easier to pursue for a female, especially with heavily set gender roles on their shoulders.

I think more females will get into it. But, perhaps females just dont enjoy it so much as a whole. Which is odd, Id have expected the old 'hunt and gather' motive to be dragging more females into collecting of all types - so much old evolutionary circuitry has persisted, after all.

I apologise if any of that sounded sexist! Perhaps some day it will be equal female/male ratios - and lets not forget the young/old divide.
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I am finding this discussion intriguing. I have several collecting hobbies, and each has a specific gender that dominates.

I resonate with BenByfield's suggestion that traditional gender roles might encourage future breadwinners (boys) to collect money (coins) and future homemakers (girls) to collect decorative figurines (model horses). Within those two hobbies, though, I have found an equal amount of obsessiveness, treasure-hunting mentality, and passion. If a coin collector were to stumble in to a model horse show, he would find it utterly familiar - except for what objects were on the tables and what gender was behind them.

That differentiation doesn't quite explain insulators, though. I collect them because they are beautiful (traditional feminine reason?), and because they are part of the engineering history of our country (traditional masculine reason?). My only guess as to why more women don't is that in the early days of that hobby, collecting involved scaling remote, defunct telegraph poles to gather the insulators. Perhaps that biased the hobby early-on, and it never regained parity.

My husband, by the way, doesn't collect anything, is equally (and cheerfully) bemused by all my collections!
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