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1897 Morgan Silver Dollar- Does It Make Gem Bu/ MS 65?

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Another Morgan acquisition today!

As the title states, I was wondering if you guys think that this Morgan dollar would qualify for a grade of ms 65. I think that it is an easy 64, and I held it up to several PCGS slabbed 65's in the store and they seemed pretty similar. But, I would like some advice from the always spot on CCF before sending it in. This date has a decent price jump from 64 to 65 and again to 66.

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 Posted 06/04/2013  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks MS65 to me, very nice .
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really sweet coin vince22. the luster is awesome on this. I think you got a solid 65 here and on a good day at the TPG maybe a 66. congrats on finding this one.
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Easy MS65 with a good shot at MS66.
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Send it. I see no reason for you not to see this in a 65 slab.
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I agree with everyone else, looks 65 at least.
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Easily MS65.
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That is sweet. MS 65 for sure.
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Thanks everyone, and for the quick responses! I am now pretty confident with the purchase, for 85$. I'll maybe bump this in a couple weeks when it and my 1891-P come back from PCGS!
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Definitely an MS-65 and possibly a 66.
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Hi Vince22,

What is the line on the rev between E and D (faintly from the T to the E and D)? Perhaps it is just a piece of lint but it may just be my imagination helping me believe it is a die crack.

I don't know enough about VAM; any known variants with this line?

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I took a look at vamworld, and the "imaginary lint variant" doesn't exist for a Philly '97 :)

Beauty coin!

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What is the line on the rev between E and D (faintly from the T to the E and D)? Perhaps it is just a piece of lint but it may just be my imagination helping me believe it is a die crack.


It's a die crack. You got me looking, and I didn't find a listed VAM showing that crack. That's inconclusive; the data is incomplete and it might be a later die state of an existing VAM.
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Good eye! I didn't catch that. There is also a die crack on the reverse from A-T-E in states. The photo hides it a bit. I don't know if that helps identify it! I haven't researched VAMs much, but they seem intriguing!
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I think it's really close to a MS65, don't think it will make a MS66 grade unless there is a lot more luster, but still very uncommon to find raw Morgans with such clean cheek and fields.
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BUMP- Nice guys, right on! MS 65. Bought raw at a coin shop.

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