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kuh_85 Pillar of the Community Canada 2366 Posts	Posted 06/08/2013 9:55 pm Another one that had my hopes up for a few seconds. http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...B:SS:CA:1123 Report this Post to the Staff
skelly423 Valued Member Canada 187 Posts	Posted 06/09/2013 10:20 pm I haven't bought a new Charlton in a few years, so I'm new to this variety. If I understand what I've read, I think I may have a rarity. I've got one with completely intact vines and unbroken stems. It's ICCS graded MS-62 R&B (with the variety being unattributed). Is this worth a premium over a "regular" 1858 MS-62, and if so can anybody ballpark how much the premium might be? Thanks Report this Post to the Staff
kuh_85 Pillar of the Community Canada 2366 Posts	Posted 06/09/2013 11:19 pm All vines and stems intact is the 'Full Vine' variety referred to by the original poster. Charlton 2013 pricing only goes up to MS60BN for this variety at a price of $1,500 compared to $575 for a regular. Get a good loupe/microscope and check it out. If it's good then get it regraded! Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 06/10/2013 09:05 am skelly423...Why not post a clear pic of your cent right here? Report this Post to the Staff
skelly423 Valued Member Canada 187 Posts	Posted 06/10/2013 09:47 am I don't have a great camera, but here's the best shot I can offer. You can clearly see that the vine is unbroken, and you'll have to take my word for it that the stems are intact. I welcome your thoughts/comments on this one. Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 06/10/2013 10:48 am Your right about the camera. Are you able to get that pic into a computer and crop out everything but the coin? It's hard to see any detail in the vine at leaf #12. I hope that the pros here have more info on your cent. It is a beauty,..no matter what the variety. Picasa3(free Google download) is a wonderful tool on fixing up your pics. . . . Edited by DEVLEC 06/10/2013 10:50 am Report this Post to the Staff
bosox Pillar of the Community United States 1353 Posts	Posted 06/10/2013 2:44 pm Looks like (full vine, die crack at Leaf #13) the full vine cent I catalogued as OA2/RA3. It should have a vine crack through the D in CANADA and maybe through the R in REGINA (depending upon die state). Of the three full vine and intact sixteen stem die pairs, this one by far produced the most coins, making it the most common full vine die marriage. It is still a scarce coin. Yours would make the third mint state coin from this die pair that I have seen. There is a 64RB and I own a 63RB. http://www.victoriancent.com 2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Literary Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA. Edited by bosox 06/10/2013 2:55 pm Report this Post to the Staff
skelly423 Valued Member Canada 187 Posts	Posted 06/10/2013 5:06 pm Devlec, the vine at Leaf #12 is intact, it's a trick of the lighting (more specifically a trick of the terrible camera), and is in fact easily visible to the naked eye. bosox, You are correct about the die cracks at Leaf #13 and the D in Canada (although the D is very faint). There's no sign of a break in the R. Report this Post to the Staff
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