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Edited by Moe145
06/06/2013 6:01 pm
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Amazing 3CN. I'm going to go with MS65.  Edited by panzaldi
06/06/2013 6:32 pm
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 beautiful Moe I'm not very good at these but I took a look at some auction archive pics and I'm going to say MS62/63 due to what I think are slightly weak strike areas at her hairline and the reverse roman numerals which held it back from a 64/65 i hope I dont too much of a fool of myself 
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Well, I'm going to assume this is a Proof since you're probably not going to spend the near-5-figure price of admission to a Business Strike of this grade. I'll throw PR64 out, but 65 wouldn't surprise me.
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I am guessing PR-63. Fantastic coin!
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There is a lack of definition on Liberty's hair. I am not an expert on these, but is that lack of definition common with these?
Because there is so little evidence of wear on the reverse,
I am inclined to think that,
that lack of definition is the result of a low pressure strike. The high points on the hair are weak, but the rest of the obverse is sharp.
The fields on both sides are quite clean. Nice definition on the rest of the coin.
Seems to be a small ding below thr 'R' of LibeRty's head band.
Luck boy! MS64.
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There is a lack of definition on Liberty's hair. I am not an expert on these, but is that lack of definition common with these? Yes, you can assume weakness in that area with these - the Mint had its' hands full striking them due to the nickel composition. Incomplete vertical bands in the III on the reverse are common, also. Keep in mind, guys, only 1,000 1885 Business Strikes were ever minted. If you can find one in MS64 (fewer than 50 exist in 64 and above), it's going to set you back something north of $7,000. A Proof in similar grade is less than 10% of that. |
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I admit I am very curious whether it was considered to be a Proof.
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I'm going to jump on board with Ddave and D0ubl3Eagle. I'm thinking it's a proof issue and Moe is not spending one months budget of upgrade halves on a 4 digit business strike.  |
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PR63 the rims sure look proof very squared and well defined.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440Edited by westcoin
06/08/2013 2:41 pm
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Wow, I just don't see 65 details in this one especially for a proof I'd think the devices would have struck up better and more fully with a proof. But it may be just due to focus from the coin being shot at an angle?
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Had the 65 part right. Missed the signs of a proof. Shes a beauty! Learned something with this one.
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06/12/2013 8:54 pm
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Moe, are there any hints of Prooflike surfaces on the coin at all or does it look lusterous instead of brilliant? If it doesn't appear Prooflike, (now don't get your hopes up) but it might be a business strike and worth about 20-40 times what you think. One thing that immediately stands out in favor of business strike is the slight rotation on the reverse (I believe this is also noted in Gifford's 3CN book). PCGS has been known to get the designation wrong on these and lately I've heard of certain specimens being reattributed.
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Moe, are there any hints of Prooflike surfaces on the coin at all or does it look lusterous instead of brilliant? If it doesn't appear Prooflike, (now don't get your hopes up) but it might be a business strike and worth about 20-40 times what you think. One thing that immediately stands out in favor of business strike is the slight rotation on the reverse (I believe this is also noted in Gifford's 3CN book). PCGS has been known to get the designation wrong on these and lately I've heard of certain specimens being reattributed. Hmm. Good points. Certainly worth looking at. Comparing the 1880 3 Cent proof I got around the same time as the 1885, the reverse particularly seems different. The 1880 reverse shines like a mirror finish when held just so with a light source. The 1885 does not have the mirror finish to it (in the fields) and doesn't shine like that. Here's a few more pictures of each so you all can let me know what you think: 1880 & 1885 3 Cent Nickels Obverse Comparison  1880 & 1885 3 Cent Nickels Reverse Comparison  |
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