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 Posted 05/21/2007  12:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay. I've posted these pics before and I want to educate myself on these errors. Now I know the first pic is a die crack as I've been told.

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Is this second pic also a die crack. The differences is that the second is not jagged like the one above. It is raised but more smooth and rounded.
Also someone please tell how the second error was made opposed to the first one it is more rounded and smooth than jagged.





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The first pic is a die crack - the die actually broke during the process of minting. The second pic is more likely a die gouge - something foreign hit the die at one point, cutting a straight gouge across it. Although it's not unheard of for a die to crack that straight, a gouge is more likely.
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 Posted 05/22/2007  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Thingee

check my email to you !! from a few days ago ,, the second coin is not a die crack but is trapped air between the zinc and the plating ,,it is a relitively common occurance on the zinc cents.

Like I said in the email ,,I have a fairly large assortment of them ,,I think they are intersting although they add little or no value as an error.

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 Posted 05/22/2007  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin
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The 1995 cent is the result of impurities remaining on the zinc blank before it was plated in copper. Gas formed under the copper and pushed it outward.

The difference is easy to see, the first image is of a jagged line with very sharp edges - die crack. The second image is a straight line with soft edges - gas bubble.
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 Posted 05/22/2007  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
The second image is a straight line with soft edges - gas bubble.


Duh. I spend so little time with clad coinage, that thought never entered my mind. Well, that's why he's Coppercoins, and I'm not.
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Chuck.
Very well said, you make it easy for a lot of us to understand.

Bruce.
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So whenever I see something like on the 2nd image, the 1995, it is specifically called a gas bubble error. The first cracked image is a cracked die. Thanks so much. This really helps a lot.
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Thingee in most cases the trapped gas forms in a fairly straight line , while die cracks have a much more archaic appearance.

Im pretty sure that coppercoins can explain it better ,,but I try !

But essentially your take is correct !! and you can always ask here if your in doubt !!

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