1949 D Franklin ICG MS-66 FBL, Would It Cross

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brenpickle Pillar of the Community United States 836 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 11:49 am This coin is not mine. These are the sellers photos. Would it cross to PCGS or NGC at that grade. I really doubt it. The hit below the date I think drops it from a 66 and the line across the bell lines might cause it to lose that designation and also I don't like the spot above the bell lines. I think the coin is a nice MS65, but that is it. It is for sell for way less then 66fbl money, but way more then 65fbl money. What is your guys take. Is it worth a gamble and what would you think it is worth? Thanks for looking, and any feed back. Report this Post to the Staff

acloco Pillar of the Community United States 3540 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 12:22 pm The light scratches on the cheek - are those on the slab or on Franklin? I don't see a 66 for this coin. Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36741 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 1:32 pm I'm seeing an MS-64. Report this Post to the Staff
dave700x Rest in Peace United States 10625 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 2:31 pm If it's listed for way more than MS65FBL money, it would have to cross to MS66FBL. I don't see that happening. Report this Post to the Staff
icollectyoubuy Valued Member United States 213 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 4:22 pm I think it would be and MS64 or MS65. Report this Post to the Staff
panzaldi Bedrock of the Community United States 18660 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 4:53 pm MS64 or MS65 at best. Report this Post to the Staff
ewaste New Member United States 33 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 6:59 pm Seeing the price difference between grades I can see why you are asking. Even between 64 and 65 there is a few hundred dollars difference. Ivote for MS64, just don't see MS65. But it could be better in person also. Report this Post to the Staff
brenpickle Pillar of the Community United States 836 Posts	Posted 07/14/2013 9:03 pm Thanks, the ones on the check area I believe are on the slab. I think the luster is the only thing that saves this from a 64 and makes it a 65 to a TPG, but the price is not right even if it is a 65. I am going to pass on it, I just wanted to make sure everyone agreed with me and I wasn't being to hard on it. Its a nice looking Frankie, but not at the price. I think with this coin the seller does not think it will cross and that is why they are charging less then 66fbl for it, but in the slab it is in they are hoping someone will come along and buy the slab for the grade on it and not the coin and think they are getting a good price. Edited by brenpickle 07/14/2013 9:04 pm Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9792 Posts	Posted 07/15/2013 9:59 pm I doubt it would crossover at the grade of 66 maybe would be knocked down to a 64 even, I think it's a solid MS65. As to the FBL? Maybe it's close but PCGS is pretty hard on calling them FBL unless it's obvious. There is a light contact mark around the center that goes through all the BLs that might keep it from a FBL at PCGS. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
D0ubl3Eagle Pillar of the Community United States 5854 Posts	Posted 07/17/2013 01:03 am I lean more towards MS-65 FBL. Report this Post to the Staff
IndianGoldEagle Bedrock of the Community United States 36741 Posts	Posted 07/17/2013 11:49 am The flat spot on the upper lines just left of the bell crack will keep PCGS from giving this an FBL designation. Report this Post to the Staff
BadToTheBone Pillar of the Community United States 1795 Posts	Posted 07/17/2013 11:39 pm MS64-65 at best. And if the price is not right leave it alone especially when considering the grading fees, shipping and handling etc. Report this Post to the Staff
atchisonbj Valued Member United States 293 Posts	Posted 07/19/2013 09:17 am I could see MS-65 WITHOUT FBL max. They could do MS-64 WITHOUT FBL if they take a real disliking to the spot on the bell. The main thing is that there are two marks going a across the bottom set of bell lines. Because of that I would never buy this coin as an FBL. And I don't think PCGS would cross it as FBL and NGC certainly not. Report this Post to the Staff
Hondo Pillar of the Community United States 1211 Posts	Posted 07/19/2013 10:10 am FBL maybe, 66 I don't think so... 64 if I had to guess. Very nice Ben! Report this Post to the Staff
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