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Chinese Replica 1930 Penny On Ebay

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Pillar of the Community
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 Posted 07/18/2013  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should add I meant English obverse and not reverse in my post 2.5 hours ago (oops)
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 Posted 07/18/2013  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamessmith to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi again I know of two I think still current Mint letters saying a London Obverse/London Reverse is correct. (have the dates written somewhere) Hearsay is a third was issued and later withdrawn, but hearsay is urban myth/ glorified gossip.
One Fact is that no 1930 penny was ever authenticated without the London Reverse.
This particular coin had a obviously bad "0" among other points.
At the moment the "0" in the 1930 is probably the second step in any over view, First step that bad 9. That defines it fake immediately, (but I still try to get a scan for future study if I have the coin in hand.) Regards the 0 it in fact has to be More O shape than 0 and with a bit of practice easier to pick than the better done 9s coming out.
All the other steps checks get progressively more time consuming, but now are made visually easier with scanners and magnification.
Attention to detail is the key.
Weight can be another clue. A dimensionally correct coin should weigh in in a very close tolerance to spec. If the dimensions are right and the weight is badly out it means a different composition of metals.
One Adelaide expert- and I defer to him, as I do to the many other "real coin experts"-- I am just a very dedicated observer of detain in my narrow field of passion-- picked a bad coin by the tone of its ring when if was dropped. That was enough to tell him there needed to be more precise checks done to see why.
Every one can become good at picking most fakes, and I am first to suggest going to a Professional of good repute when big $s are at stake if you feel uncomfortable with your own judgment.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Nealeffendi, I thought I'd missed a whole grouping there for a minute! Yes, that one the 0 is definately more like a 1920 0 than a 1930 0.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yesterday I was lucky enough to see one of the 3 certified English obverse 1930 pennies. Resides with some other STUNNING coins.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  01:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Unicorn
When I went back to have a better look at that English Obverse penny image and compared it to an image of a real 1930 penny I realised that the 0 was not right.
It does look more like the 0 on a 1920 penny, but I can guarantee that it isn't a 1920 penny with the 2 replaced by a 3. For one thing all 1920 English Obverse pennies are FBL and this coin has mildly CBL.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  01:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definately not a 1920 replaced with a 3. I appreciate your additional info on CBL etc!

My thoughts are that this is just another Chinese Die to beware of.
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 Posted 07/19/2013  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jamessmith to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, my thoughts is Chinese as well, and there is one more give away I am prepare to divulge on that one to those who are prepared to email me rather than put it up publicly, preferably with a reference from their Grand mother saying they are not blabbermouths.

I all ways was taught the obverse was the "heads side" and the reverse had the date in Aussie pennies.

"enworb" congratulations, I have had many achievements re 1930 pennies but only a distant glance at one of those. Are you positive about 3 issued?
As I have mentioned earlier facts on these mint letters are hard to find, and I am also interested in tracking down how many mint letters were actually issued altogether.
I don't have the connections or clout to motivate any one I have contacted at the Mint to find out this, and what date the last was issued- this interests me from a security view.


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 Posted 07/19/2013  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yesterday I was lucky enough to see one of the 3 certified English obverse 1930 pennies.


Out of curiosity, what was the grade?
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