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2003 D Is This A Double Die?

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Any opinions on these three coins. I posted 2 of them earlier but not sure if many got to see them. First Coin is 2003 D, Second Coin is 1994 D, third coin is 1982 D. Give me your best guesses please

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1st coin: probably a die crack
2nd coin: not sure what is up with the R & I
3rd coin: looks like foreign material on the surface
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1. I'm new to coin grading and don't know what a die crack is?
2. The R I and L all look strange.
3. The foreign metal was on the coin when it was pressed. You can tell with my mag glasses but I can't get a really good picture of it. You can see the T and Y in the extra metal.
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1. from the Glossary: die crack- A raised, irregular line on a coin, ranging from very fine to very large, some quite irregular. These result when a hairline break occurs in a die.

3. that area looks raised above the coin surface, which would mean stuck on coin after minting. If its even with the surface, it might have been there when pressed.
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Thanks for the info. Is a die crack a rare coin? And I'll look closer at the other to see if the metal is even or not.
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I see what you mean on the 82. It's definitely raised over the metal. Wonder how that could happen? Totally covers the letters, I guess if it were pressed at the mint, the letters would be visible more through it. Thanks, learning more daily.
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I die crack won't add much value to the coin, but it may interest a collector of errors.
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I have one thing to say. Errors are just as subjective as coin grading itself. I've been looking at certified error coins and most I looked at seemed to be Machine Doubling, flat and shelf like, yet they are approved and certified by the likes of PCGS, NGC, ANACS and others.. with DDO or d/d or s/s/s or whatever. Some of the coins were so Slightly doubled I can't believe they were certified and selling for hundreds, even thousands of dollars. According to my coins pics, they should be worth in the neighborhood of oh I don't know, MAYBE $10,000! lol, This game is harder than it looks!
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I am not sure what you mean by Errors are just as subjective? Errors are errors. They all have names/definitions so it really isn't up to the person holding the coin. It is either an error or it isn't. Also DDO / DDRs D/D and S/S/S are not errors they are varieties. The price errors/varieties sell for has a lot to do with the rarity of it. There are less than 10 (to my knowledge) 1992 D Close Ams ever found. They command a huge premium over the 1998-2000 Wide AMs cause there are hundreds if not thousands WAMS that the mint circulated. I have never seen a Machine Doubled coin in a PCGS Slab that was labeled as a Doubled Die. I suppose even PCGS makes errors too. This is a pretty hard game so to say....not for someone who doesn't have a lot of patience and wants instant gratification.

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Ah, I see you point. Patience is definitely a virtue. Check out this coin on ebay. Graded by ANACS. This is my point. I don't see the difference between MD and this coin. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-D-DDR-...em56597e139b
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According to my coins pics, they should be worth in the neighborhood of oh I don't know, MAYBE $10,000!
I wouldn't go THAT high. Maybe near the $5K range.
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rpmes- The sellers pictures are not that good actually. Way to bright. Your pictures are way better than his. I think I can make out split serifs on the "I" in AMERICA. From the pictures it is difficult to make anything out though.
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I agree with Jayman931
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PCGS says as of August 2012 there have been 5 1992-P cams and 15 of the 1992-D's but I think a couple have been found lately by our members here.
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Thanks Jayman. This is a very confusing topic. I need to do more research. Also, I wish I could send some coins in for professional grading because even the best pics, don't seem to compare with having it in your hand to examine. But it's so expensive to have coins graded, and if it doesn't grade as high as you hoped, you can lose money. Back to the drawing board then :)
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rpmes: I see you are a supporter of the site. Do you have my DVD? That might help you with a quick course in coin collecting. Send me an email if you don't have the disk. Shipped at no charge.
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