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Somebody Told Me This Coin Is Fake Is It?

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 Posted 08/28/2013  2:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1PPCLI to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
http://www.ebay.com/itm/18120512105....m1555.l2649

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 Posted 08/28/2013  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well... The Queens lips looks a bit funky but, I can't see anyone copying a 1985, even though it is a 'pointed' 5.


Where's 'nickelsguy'...

OH.. and sorry.. Welcome to CCF...

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 Posted 08/28/2013  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1PPCLI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have this coin listed on ebay and a user j_coiner6 who also calls himself Jake. He sent me a very nasty message.

Below:



This isn't a pointed. If you don't have this removed in 12 hours ebay will do it for you.

I am part of the coin community ebay fake/replica and false auctions committee.

- j_coiner6
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1985 Canadian Penny with a pointed 5
1985 Canadian Penny with a pointed 5
Item Id: 181205121050
End time: 04-Sep-13 01:22:09 EDT

Buyer:

j_coiner6 (273)
98.8% Positive Feedback
Member since 23-Jul-12 in Canada
Location: ON, Canada

Listing Status: This message was sent while the listing was active.


I asked him to send me a picture of a real 1985 pointed 5 One cent coin. he sent this photo.


http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...nt65cent.jpg

this is where the picture is from as you can see. and the message is as follows

Dear zingo-zingo,



You're such an idiot. They used the EXACT same dies for 1964-2003. They just modified different dates and obverse.

Jake.


On 2013-08-28, at 12:05 PM, " ebay Member: zingo-zingo" <<email address removed per ebay policy>> wrote:

I am at a real loss here. 1 person has told me its ok so what should I do with this guy who is badgering me.

and obviously he comes to this site because the pic of the 1965 is from this site?

I wish I could be here without this problem because this looks like a great site for asking about coins.

Thanks if you reply to this

and if you know this Jake person please let him know that he shouldn't be so mean to people!

Chuck
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 Posted 08/28/2013  4:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the confusion is from the title. What the OP means is misattributed not fake. It is a real coin. He just wants to know if it is in fact a pointed 5 or blunt 5. The experts should be along shortly.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add o-train to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/28/2013  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1PPCLI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry I would have to say that it isn't a misunderstanding at all. He isn't trying to inform me or ask if its a pointed 5 or blunt 5. he is telling me to get it off of ebay in 12 hours. no explaining nothing.

This makes me frustrated

sorry if I sound rude but he is just being a *** Edited by Staff | The bad word filter is in place for a reason. Bypassing the filter and making the intended word obvious anyway is completely unacceptable. *** disturber

Chuck
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 Posted 08/28/2013  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's pointed 5! The pointed for 1985 is not as pronounced as the 1965 pointed variety but this coin fits the description. The blunt 1985 is very straight down line. Tell the guy to leave you alone as you are not falsely listing anything
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 Posted 08/28/2013  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its NOT a fake.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1PPCLI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the validation. I hope all of you have a great week and find many great coins in your searching!

Chuck
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 Posted 08/28/2013  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add middross to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure that the member with the ebay handle of j_coiner6 is jakedacc. If so, maybe he would like to chime in on this.

Judging be the picture on coinsandcanada website, I would have to say that this looks like a legit pointed 5.

http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...nt-1965-2012
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 Posted 08/28/2013  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add artdio to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pointed 5 , as for jake ? once again would you like to offer your take on the treatment of this collector ?

Oh and welcome to the forum..You will find 99.99 % of the members here are great people...dont let 1 bad go round scare you off ebay or away from here
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 Posted 08/28/2013  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have already talked to 1PPCLI about this situation and apologized on the fact that the pictures were not clear on my mobile device and did contact him regarding this situation.

I do admit that I made an error not realizing that there is a large difference between a pointed 5 on a 1965 and a pointed 5 on a 1985.

I never called is coin a 'fake' more or less believed it was a blunt 5 by mistake.

But don't let this member deceive you. I will refrain from copying and pasting the replies he gave me seeing that this is a family sight but ebay is pretty heated up about the language and very abusive responses he replied with.

It all started with me messaging him saying it wasn't a pointed (in my honest mistake I already messaged him and replied to him about these circumstances) but his reaction completely blew this out of proportion.

This is your ebay case 1PPCLI

Report SR# 1-13277845218

"Hello Jacob,

Thank you for contacting us about reporting a particular seller for abusing ebay system.

We will fully investigate this and take the appropriate action once we find a sufficient evidence and as much as we would like to send a result of the investigation as for ebay policy everything will be private.

Reported Seller ID: zingo-zingo

We appreciate your understanding.
Thanks,

ebay CS,

Froilan, (SR#: 1-13276930854)"
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 Posted 08/28/2013  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1PPCLI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear zingo-zingo,

This isn't a pointed. If you don't have this removed in 12 hours ebay will do it for you.

I am part of the coin community ebay fake/replica and false auctions committee.

j_coiner6


This is the last I'm going to say about this and then it's time to move on.

The above statement is not justified, "Take your coin off in 12 hours or e-bay will do it for you" is a threat! It is unprovoked and you should be suspended for it.

You called me a Idiot and I called you a Loser, those are the harshest words used in all of the messages back and forth.

The reason I get so upset at this is because I was in the Infantry for 19 years and have 6 tours of duty in all parts of the world. I didn't do all that so I could come back to my own country and be harassed by you!

next time please ensure you have positive ID on your target! BEFORE you pull the trigger!

I don't hold grudges, life is to short for that. Let's move on Jake.

Like Forest Gump would say "And that's all I have to say about that"
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 Posted 08/28/2013  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am willing to move on chuck. Now that I have the assurance on this. I will be bidding.
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 Posted 08/29/2013  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you know you have this listed under 'Large cents'?
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 Posted 08/29/2013  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not trying to throw gasoline on the fire, but that seems like kind of the wrong way to go about trying to correct a misattributed listing? I know a lot of ccf members 'patrol' ebay, but I didn't realize there was a committee on fake/replica auctions... I would be pretty annoyed myself if that had happened to me, especially if I was correct... Again, not trying to get anyone annoyed but I kind of think that that kind of confrontational approach may do more harm than good... My 2 cents...
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