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Need some help figuring out how to break a coin out of an NGC white holder without damaging coin. this is my first break out. Can the holder be saved for future use?



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I have seen people wrap it in a towel and smack the side with a hammer. Some use a vice once wrapped just to get it to "pop". Some a small dremel sander on 3 sides. I cant speak on the safety of any of these. And no, you can not re-use the holder.
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HAMMER! that one is probably not the safest. I have a dremel, I think i'll try that. thanks for the info.
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Save the NGC label.
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I usually have to start the crack-out with a few shots of bourbon. I've reused the new PCGS inserts with direct fit 40mm Air-Tites. I've not found any way to recycle the solid NGC blocks.
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HAMMER! that one is probably not the safest. I have a dremel, I think i'll try that. thanks for the info.


A Dremel with a regular cutting wheel is an elegant and accurate solution. Just beware of plastic melting and coagulating around the wheel; you'll hit on the proper speed to cut at fairly quickly. I'm at the point - having had a bit of practice - where I can reliably open a slab (making cuts on all 4 sides) with a single cutting wheel.
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I use the hammer method, seriously. Wrapped in a hand towel, placed on a hard surface and hit the side. Done it many times and no problems. Just takes guts to swing the first hammer blow, after that it's easy. Good luck
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I always use a bench vice and give the holder a squeeze along the vertical edges. When it pops a bit I use a screwdriver to pop around the edges. No matter which method you use - be careful.
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thank god, that theese holders are not common here in austria/germany.
but sadly you find a few ones in an auction house. (not ebay)
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Hammer time for me on the NGC slabs, for the PCGS and ICG slabs I have a pretty nifty pair of dyke citters that snaps them right open cleanly, no fuss no muss. Towel wrapped is a good idea, as I've had a slab shatter and stab me in the arm before, also please be careful and protect your eyes during removal with all methods!


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I've reused the new PCGS inserts with direct fit 40mm Air-Tites. I've not found any way to recycle the solid NGC blocks.

Interesting idea! You could always get a pipe with a 40mm ID and sharpen one end then use it as a punch on the NGC inserts to make your own similar to the PCGS inserts.
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I used the hammer on the side technique. she's free at last and sitting pretty in my album..thanks everyone.
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If you have a chisel, lay it on its side and hit the chisel with a hammer softly but not dead on sort of on a downward motion. After that, see if you can peel off the remaining plastic by hand to avoid damage.
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I used the Dremel method - and it usually took about one cutting wheel per slab, so be sure to buy the tube of 25, not the card of 3.

However, once I discovered the hammer method (thanks to folks on CCF), I've never gone back. Wrap the slab in a towel, turn it on its side, and thwack it. One hit at a time (not pound-pound-pound), and gradually increase the force til you hear the crack. Then take it apart.

It may surprise you, but I felt that the Dremel method was more dangerous to the coin. This is because at the end of the Dremeling, I used a butter knife to carefully pry the top off of the slab. I lived in fear that the knife would slip across the coin. With the hammer method, the slab releases the insert (including the coin) without prying.
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P.S. No, the holder cannot be saved using any method I've ever seen.
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SAVE the label but be prepared to ditch the holder.
I attached six labels in my album to document the coins' history.
The holder is JUST a piece of plastic. Treat it as such.
And ... BE BRAVE!

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