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Pillar of the Community
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Are Cuds on the reverse of a coin less common than Cuds on the obverse? |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes. They are far scarcer. You will see a couple small rim Cuds on various denominations but these don't command much premium because of their size. There are some reverse Cud Lincoln cents out there and these will bring a larger price than an equally sized Cud on the obverse. Others that come to mind are a couple on Washington quarters. You have to watch out though, because some are only large Retained Cuds. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The only one Cud I've found so far are on the reverse. It is no not large though.  The second one is labeled a die break, but you can see where the die was moving, so I guess it is a Retained Cud not a Cud.   |
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That's what I thought, so I was surprised to run across this beauty. It even has the weak strike on the opposing side (see the second "T" in "TRUST" and the rim to the south of that. I just wanted to make sure so I could give an accurate description on the Bay...   Edited by Sudz
09/13/2013 09:46 am
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Pillar of the Community
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For a piece like that, I wouldn't know how to tell if it was a true Cud, or a Retained Cud that had the details worn away. I'm sure there's a way to tell the difference, but I don't know how. I know Retained Cuds can sink in quite a bit, so it wouldn't surprise me. |
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I'm not sure if this helps or not, but it is raised well above the regular surface. In other words it doesn't appear to be sunken.
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09/13/2013 10:45 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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The rim shows it is a Cud. Retained Cuds don't rise on the rim. Also the weakness on the last "T" of TRUST is another sure sign it is a Cud. With the missing part of the die, not present, the opposite side can not form the devices. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Did you find it CRH'ing? She's a beauty!
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Pillar of the Community
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Found it in a bunch of coins a guy was selling for 8 bucks. Couldn't resist...
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United States
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Really cool find! Thanks for sharing!
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:The rim shows it is a Cud. Retained Cuds don't rise on the rim. Also the weakness on the last "T" of TRUST is another sure sign it is a Cud. With the missing part of the die, not present, the opposite side can not form the devices. Why wouldn't the rim also be raised? This wouldn't make sense since the rim is part of the die too. The rim can break off and be retained just like any other portion of the die. And even a Retained Cud can leave a weakness on the other side of the coin. If the retained portion of broken die sinks down far enough there will still be an absence of striking pressure on the opposite side. Here is a very well known Retained Cud. The rim is raised compared to other parts of the rim. It also shows weakness on the opposite side of the Retained Cud. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Washin...181211836115 |
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