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Only 16 entries... deadline 8 pm EST tonight! If you've only posted one pair, you have a second entry available.
If you haven't posted any entry, what's stopping you?
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OK, really struggling: Commodus - born to reigning emperor:   Marius - a blacksmith, so presumably not from royal or senatorial background:  
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Pish, you could develop that further with Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus, who's name means 'Born in the Purple'. I dont know how common the guy's coinage is though.
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Okay. Here's my first entry (there might or might not be a second). Entry #1 by january1may Istanbul was Constantinople Now it's Istanbul, not Constantinople Been a long time gone, Constantinople Now it's Turkish delight on a moonlit night
Every gal in Constantinople Lives in Istanbul, not Constantinople So if you've a date in Constantinople She'll be waiting in Istanbul[usually attributed to They Might Be Giants] The "medieval" period is often considered to end in 1453, when the last piece of the Byzantine, or Eastern Roman, Empire was conquered by the Ottoman Empire. (I would've said "usually considered", but it's also common to use the 1492 date.) Of course, the Eastern Roman Empire had existed for over a millenium prior to that date; and while the Ottoman Empire didn't survive for such long a period, it did continue for almost half a millenium (more than that if you count the part before they conquered the Byzantines). And as it happens, these two coins - separated by over fifteen centuries - are the only ones I have of either. (In fact, I'm not even sure the former counts!)   Arcadius AE4, Salus Reipublicae type. Constantinople mint. Supposedly 388-392 (when Arcadius was Augustus in the East but not yet emperor), so might not actually be Eastern Roman as such (but it's my only Constantinople mint anyway).   Ottoman Empire, 1 kurush, Mehmed V, 1327//1 [1909 AD]. "Istanbul" mint (technically, the city wasn't renamed yet). ...Looks like I'm the first participant to actually enter a relatively recent coin  I didn't consider the possibility of my Arcadius example not actually counting as "Byzantine", though (only just realized it when making this post).
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With a lot of thought I came up with this pair.. Byzantine Empire..1071- 78..AD.. Histamenon Nomisma Scyphate..Gold 29mm 4.3g.. Athen's Greece..449-413..BC.. Athena - Owl...24x25mm 17.21g. 1.Roman, Greek. 2.Newest,Oldest 3.Gold, Silver. 4.Religious,Mythological 5.Scyphate flan, flat flan  
Edited by Eng5858 10/18/2013 2:04 pm
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My next pair... Anastasius....491-518..AD.. 36mm x 18.81g.. Lucania, Thouriol,,400-350..BC. AR.Triobol..10x12mm .09g 1.Roman,Greek 2.Large to smalest 3.Newest,Oldest 4.Brozne,Silver  
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pishpash, that coin is what brought me to Ancients, I wanted one for years, this coin found me early this year. 
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I believe it's spelled "scyphate"  And from the photos, looks like the Athenian coin would just about fit in the other one's cup  I wonder how much did that gold piece cost...
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Thanks January1may, spelling is not my strong suites..  The Gold coin was a steal, I have a guy in my coin club that travels all over the world. He got a deal and passed it on to me, Less than $300.
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WOW Eng! That's not a steal, that's theft my friend. I saw a similar coin, in far less condition sell for $550. I saw one similar to yours self in the $900 range. That is what I call a deal.
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Okay. I'll try to get entry #2 in time :-) Entry #2 by january1may There were different reasons and ways over time to make coins that were far from round. Some people made coins in a very particular not-round shape that symbolized something from the local surroundings. Meanwhile (okay, in a different time), other people just banged a piece of silver with a hammer to make a blank for a coin and hoped for the best. What approach is more primitive? One would probably say it's the second one (though it's debatable). But in fact, the second setting is a good two millenia later than the first one. (I admit: I fudged the details a bit in the description above.) And here are the coins I'm talking about...   Olbia dolphin "coin", circa 5th or 4th century BC (I have no idea when exactly)   Russia kopek, Peter I (either very late joint rule or very early sole rule - opinions differ), circa 1696 AD; there are other fun things about it, but I'll ignore them right now as most of them aren't visible in the photos ...Hope I was successfully able to post this entry  I might post the size values (i.e. millimeters) when I get around to measuring the coins (which probably won't be for a few days). That said, the Peter I kopek is pretty darn huge as they go (most examples are far smaller).
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Thinking too much gives me headaches ..... Honestly this is the best I can come up with when my mind is running in first gear Entry Deux ! Diocletian, Senior Tetrarch and Augustus of the 'East' AE Follis minted in Trier. One of the major cities of Gaul and under the legal jurisdiction of Constantius, Caesar of the west and second to Maximianus. 26-7mm 8.71 grams   Galerius, Junior Tetrarch and Caesar of the East second to Diocletian AE Silvered Folis of Ticinum. Major city of Northern Italy under the legal jurisdiction of Maximianus, Augustus of the 'West'. 27-9mm 11.01grams (a fat one !)  I have thought for several years of cleaning this one up a little. But the silver is so nicely toned and nothing seems to be changing. So for now it will keep its 'grungy' look. I can't even remember what I paid for it two summers ago ..... but it was dirt cheap ! 
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FR, I'm making a summary of entries for convenient reference (to be posted at 8 pm), but need clarification from you regarding the nature of oppositeness of your second entry (long week, tired, maybe I'm just not getting it)
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