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The Restored Smackdown VII: Opposites

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The-Restored-Smackdown-VII:--Opposites


For those who are new to the Smackdown, these contests serve as a venues for showcasing coins from around the Ancient and Medieval world with a stated attribute or commonality. Everyone is encourage to attempt an entry. Even if you don't enter, please follow along and vote for your top three choices.

The rules for The Restored Smackdown VII: OPPOSITES are as follows.
  • Entries can invoke any interpretation of 'opposite'. The example below is a simple interpretation of the word-- opposites in size. I encourage you to get creative with your interpretation. Instead of just posting the picture and attribution, also explain the way(s) in which your coins are opposites. Sell it to us with a good story or history! Include as many pictures and as much supporting information as needed to demonstrate your points.

  • A maximum of two entries per Member (one pair of coins = one entry). Please label and number your entries for ease of voting. Example, if I were entering: "TIF Entry #1", "TIF Entry #2"

  • Coins (tokens and medals too) of all ages are allowed but at least one coin of each pair must be ancient or medieval. You must be the owner of these coins/tokens/medals..

  • Voting: vote for three coins in order of preference-- Gold, Silver, and Bronze. Points are awarded for each place, 3 for Gold, 2 for Silver, and 1 for Bronze.

  • Host announces the winner. Winner chooses and hosts the next Smackdown subject.

  • You do not have to enter a coin to vote but please do try to enter something-- you don't have to have mint state coins to win so don't be shy!

  • In the event of a tie, the host determines the winner.

  • Enjoy

The Restored Smackdown VII begins now.
Submission period ends and voting begins at 8 pm EST on Friday, October 18, 2013.
Voting ends Monday, October 21 at 6 pm EST. Winners announced soon thereafter.

I've set a longer timeframe for entries in order to give adequate time for you to think about your possible entries.
Prizes for gold, silver, and bronze winners! Prizes to be determined and will be announced when the winners are tabulated.
Regarding prizes-- this is a fairly new phenomenon for Smackdowns. If you win this Smackdown please do not feel obligated to offer prizes for the Smackdown you host. While prizes are nice, they are not necessary and I'd hate to deter anyone from entering out of inability to offer prizes.


Here's an example of one entry (do not vote for this one):

TIF entry #1:

This tiny bit of Greek archaic silver was minted in Klazomenai, Ionia, approximately 500 years BC. The massive bronze is from Ptolemy II of Egypt, roughly 250 years later. They are opposite in size. They are also opposite geographically-- from different sides of the Mediterranean (sort of).
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IONIA, Klazomenai
499-494 BC
AR Diobol (9mm, 1.18 g)
Obv: forepart of winged boar left
Rev: incuse square
Ref: Cf. BMC 9-10 (drachm); cf. Traité I 488 (drachm). VF, toned, porous. Very rare with boar left, apparently unpublished as a diobol.
ex Daniel Koppersmith Collection

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EGYPT, Ptolemy II Philadelphius
285-246 BC
AE 47.5mm, 91.8 gm
Obv: head of Zeus Ammon right
Rev: Eagle standing left on thunderbolt, looking right, E monogram between eagle's legs
Ref: Sear 7782
ex Professor James Eaton Collection. Professor Eaton procured this coin in the mid to late 1800's and the coin remained in his family until I purchased it this year.
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 Posted 10/07/2013  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hope my two entries fall within the guide lines of this smackdown.

My coins are from opposite sides of the world, one is from Europe and the other Asia. Also they are in three opposite languages, Latin, Greek, and Kharoshti.

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Roman Empire
AR Denarius
Postumus 259-268 AD
IMP CM CASS LAT POSTVMVS PF AVG
MONETA AVG
Lyons Mint
RIC VII Lyons 212


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Indo-Scythian empire
AR Tetradrachm
AZES II 35 BC- 5 AD
Greek Obverse Legend: BASILEW*S BASILEW*N MEGALOU AZOU
Kharoshti legend on reverse: MAHARAJASA RAJADIRAJASU MAHATASA AYASA
Taxila Sirsukh mint
Mitchner ACW 2449-2450
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 Posted 10/07/2013  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, mine are like the donuts and the donut holes (sounds weird?).

chrsmat71's #1 entry...

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chong ning zhong bao
10 cash
emperor hui zong
1101-1125 ad

33 mm
9.3 g



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menander i
160-145 bc
15 mm

wont quite fit in the other one...but it's close!
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Chris you crack me up...
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Yeah Chris, that's a fantastic example of oppositeness and creative thinking! Love it!

Echizento-- Yep, works for me.

There really isn't any way to violate the rules (except if you don't include at least one ancient/medieval or don't own the coins). As long as you can explain and convince us of the pair's oppositeness, it's fine.

And if any of you are typography geeks, the contest banner font is called Trajan Pro. Thought it was the most appropriate for the ancients forum,



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Theodosius I

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His lovely wife Aelia Flaccilla
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He's a boy and she's a girl. Opposites, right?
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Right indeed! Good one, pish :)
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I hope those opposites count as well:

The rivals Persia and Macedonia:

Alexander began his war against the Persians in 334 BC. At the time the Macedonian leader was twenty-two years old. At his death eleven years later, Alexander ruled the largest empire of the ancient world. His victory at the battle of Gaugamela on the Persian plains was a decisive conquest that insured the defeat of his Persian rival King Darius III.

Macedonia silver coin of Alexander III:

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And a silver Persian of the Dynasty of the Achaemenid:
(around 100 years older than the coin of Alexander)

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something I might not have displayed before. One is an Officially issued full follis FEL TEMP REPARATIO fallen horseman - the other, a small barbarous FEL TEMP from a hoard. Look close...this one is reversed with the horseman on the wrong side. Its the only one I've ever seen like this.

The opposite is easy here - one is (almost certainly) Constantine, one Constantius - one is official, one is barbarous - one is bloody massive, the other tiny - one is from england, the other the deserts - one has the correct facing design, the other the opposite.

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chrsmat71 pastry themed entry #2...

these 2 chinese coins were stuck together, obverse sides facing opposite direction. looked like a little lemon creme cookie...light on the filling.

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huang song tong bao
ren zong
1039-1054 ad
1 cash
25 mm
2.8g







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yuan feng tong bao (seal script)
shen zong
1078-1085 ad
1 cash
25mm
3.3g
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Excellent pastry theme, Chris!

If anyone is having trouble coming up with opposites, here are more things to consider:

bust right / bust left
opposite sides of a war, or otherwise foes
opposite orientation (coin/medal)
geographic opposites
toning opposites (desert patina / dark recesses with polished devices)
age opposites
condition opposites

etc
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Chrsmat, your posts are making me feel really, really hungry ..

My entries are opposite strikes (probably not the best idea for a coin contest but there you go).

The first:

Badly offstruck left.

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SICILY. Akragas. Circa 482-472 BC. AR Didrachm (20mm - 8.39 g). Eagle standing left / Crab. Jenkins, Gela, Group IV); SNG ANS 952

The second:

Badly offstruck right.

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ISLANDS off ATTICA, Aegina. Circa 350-338 BC. AR Hemidrachm (15mm, 2.46 g, 11h). Land tortoise with segmented shell / Incuse skew pattern; double globule (astragalos?) in lower left section. Milbank -; SNG Copenhagen 522 var

Sadly both crustaceans and reptiles are cold blooded so cant claim a double whammy.
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 Posted 10/09/2013  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Whizb4ng to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You forget the immortal struggle for power between the Holy Clan of the Turtle and the Band of the Immortal Crab. The Immovable Eagles play the 'Switzerland' in this conflict standing strong to maintain the balance of power. At this time in war the Turtles had been blessed with multiple victories and thus the Eagles, with the goal of maintaining the balance of the world, were forced to take an active role to return the balance of power to a stable location.

Sorry got a bit carried away!
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lol whizbng, why didn't I think of that ...
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My opposite theme is: Rome at its height, and at its end (at least for the Latin West):

Emperor Trajan expanded and ruled the Roman Empire at its greatest territorial extent, stretching from the northern border of England, to the Persian Gulf. The Empire was the foremost global power during this time, with massive economical and military might. Roman coinage was of excellent quality, both style and metal-wise.

Trajan
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In the late 5th century AD, the Roman Empire had by then been divided into two halves (although in name still united), the Western Roman Empire and the Eastern Roman Empire. While the Eastern empire prospered, the weak Western empire continued to disintegrate under barbarian pressure, losing territories it had held for centuries to the Germanic invaders. Rome had neither the military power nor the money to help it to recover, and would finally collapse in the West in the year 476 AD. Coinage suffered during this era as well, most of all for the bronze coinage, which for the most part had degenerated into low-quality tiny nummi.

This extremely rare coin is of Western emperor Libius Severus (reigned 461-465 AD), a puppet-ruler set up by the Magister militum Ricimer (a Roman general of Germanic origin), whose monogram the reverse carries.

Libius Severus
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Roman Empire in 476 AD:
Blue: Western (the half that contained Rome), Gold: Eastern
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(maps from Wikipedia)
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Ooooh... nice one, VK! Dramatic and educational.
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