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The Restored Smackdown VII: Opposites

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Opposite #1
The Romano-Persian Wars

The Battle of Misiche, Mesopotamia (244 AD)
Gordian III vs. Shapur I
Battle is only mentioned on the trilingual inscription king Shapour made at Naqsh-e Rustam:


When at first we had become established in the empire, Gordian Caesar raised in all of the Roman Empire a force from the Goth and German realms and marched on Babylonia against the Empire of Iran and against us. On the border of Babylonia at Misikhe, a great frontal battle occurred. Gordian Caesar was killed and the Roman force was destroyed. And the Romans made Philip Caesar. Then Philip Caesar came to us for terms, and to ransom their lives, gave us 500,000 denars, and became tributary to us. And for this reason we have renamed Misikhe Peroz-Shapur




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Noobster joining the fray, entering the battle with battle coins :)

Nice pics!

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Opposite #2

The Second Punic War
The Capture of Carthago Nova Iberia

Scipio Africanus vs. Hannibal of Carthage


Scipio landed at the mouth of the Ebro and was able to surprise and capture Carthago Nova (New Carthage), the headquarters of the Carthaginian power in Hispania. He obtained a rich cache of war stores and supplies, and an excellent harbor and base of operations. Scipio's humanitarian conduct toward prisoners and hostages in Hispania helped in portraying the Romans as liberators as opposed to conquerors. Livy tells the story of the capture of a beautiful woman by his troops, who offered her to Scipio as a prize of war. Scipio was astonished by her beauty, but discovered that the woman was betrothed to a Celtiberian chieftain named Allucius. He returned her to her fiancé, along with the money that had been offered by her parents to ransom her. While Scipio was long known for his great chivalry, Scipio doubtless also realized that the Senate's first priority was the war in Italy, and in the midst of the Carthaginian base in Hispania, he was to be outnumbered without much hope of reinforcement. It was paramount therefore that Scipio cooperate with local chieftains to both supply and reinforce his small army. The woman's fiance, who soon married her, naturally brought over his tribe to support the Roman armies.
-Wikipedia


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op·po·site (p-zt)
Adj.

1. Placed or located directly across from something else or from each other: opposite sides of a building.

2. Facing the other way; moving or tending away from each other: opposite directions.

3. Being the other of two complementary or mutually exclusive things: the opposite sex; an opposite role to the lead in the play.

4.
a. Altogether different, as in nature, quality, or significance: The effect of the medication was opposite to that intended.
b. Sharply contrasting; antithetical: had opposite views on the subject.

5. Botany Growing in pairs on either side of a stem: opposite leaves.

N.
1. One that is opposite or contrary to another.
2. An opponent or antagonist.
3. An antonym.

Adv.
In an opposite position: They sat opposite at the table.
prep.
1. Across from or facing: parked the car opposite the bank.
2. In a complementary dramatic role to: He played opposite her.

[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin oppositus, past participle of opponere, oppose; see oppose.]



Caracalla AE32 Pisidia Antioch
Obv. Young Caracalla laureate draped cuirassed bust right PIVS AVG ANTONINVS
Rv. Victory (some guy with a big nose dressed in drag ..... Klinger ?) walking left holding wreath and palm branch VICTORIAE DDD NNN COL AN with S R in fields
22.94 grams 32mm


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Geta AE33 Pisidia Antioch
Geta laureate bust right IMP CAES P SEPT GETA AVG
Rv. Victory ( young female this time) walking left holding wreath and palm branch VICT DD NN COL ANTIOCH with S R in fields
25.01 grams 33mm



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Although I bought these two as a pair almost 35 years ago they were minted several years apart. The younger brother Geta appears to be about age 20 while the elder brother Caracalla looks to be an early teen.


The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire
Chapter VI


Ambition of Caracalla

The declining health and last illness of Severus
inflamed the wild ambition and black passions of Caracalla's soul.
Impatient of any delay or division of empire, he attempted,
more than once, to shorten the small remainder of his father's days,
and endeavoured, but without success, to excite a mutiny among the troops.

The old emperor had often censured the misguided lenity of Marcus,
who, by a single act of justice, might have saved the Romans from the tyranny of his worthless son.
Placed in the same situation,
he experienced how easily the rigour of a judge dissolves away in the tenderness of a parent.
He deliberated, he threatened, but he could not punish;
and this last and only instance of mercy
was more fatal to the empire than a long series of cruelty.
The disorder of his mind irritated the pains of his body;
he wished impatiently for death and hastened the instant of it by his impatience.

He expired (A.D. 211, February 4th) at York in the sixty-fifth year of his life,
and in the eighteenth of a glorious and successful reign.
In his last moments he recommended concord to his sons,
and his sons to the army.
The salutary advice never reached the heart,
or even the understanding, of the impetuous youths;
but the more obedient troops, mindful of their oath of allegiance,
and of the authority of their deceased master,
resisted the solicitations of Caracalla,
and proclaimed both brothers emperors of Rome.
The new princes soon left the Caledonians in peace,
returned to the capital, celebrated their father's funeral with divine honours,
and were cheerfully acknowledged as lawful sovereigns,
by the senate,
the people,
and the provinces.

Some pre-eminence of rank seems to have been allowed to the elder brother;
but they both administered the empire with equal and independent power.

Jealousy and hatred of the two emperors

Such a divided form of government would have proved a source of discord
between the most affectionate brothers.
It was impossible that it could long subsist
between two implacable enemies,
who neither desired
nor could trust a reconciliation.
It was visible that one only could reign,
and that the other must fall;
and each of them judging of his rival's designs by his own,
guarded his life with the most jealous vigilance
from the repeated attacks of poison or the sword.
Their rapid journey through Gaul and Italy,
during which they never ate at the same table,
or slept in the same house,
displayed to the provinces the odious spectacle of fraternal discord.

On their arrival at Rome, they immediately divided the vast extent of the Imperial palace.
No communication was allowed between their apartments:
the doors and passages were diligently fortified,
and guards posted and relieved with the same strictness as in a besieged place.
The emperors met only in public,in the presence of their afflicted mother;
and each surrounded by a numerous train of armed followers.
Even on these occasions of ceremony,
the dissimulation of courts could ill disguise the rancour of their hearts.
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Nice work, everyone. Looking forward to seeing more!
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Just giving a little weekend bump to the thread. Hope the rest of you are working on entries!

The Goldberg lot will provide some of the prizes...
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Thrace Messembria AE 22mm 8g 250-175BC
Female head with diadem, Athena Alkis with shield and spear, Helmet in field.

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Anglo-Saxon continental type silver Sceat 695-740AD

These are opposite for a number of reasons. Firstly it is obvious that one is a fairly large bronze and one is a fairly small silver coin. One is at the beginning of civilization and enlightenment and the other is at the beginning of the dark ages of barbarity and ignorance.

Aside from this they personally represent opposites since one is from my homeland (it was dug up in the UK in 2009) and the other is from the homeland of my girlfriend of the last two years (Bulgaria)
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On the left is the elderly and balding Vespasian...on the right, the youthful Constantius Gallus, world reknowned for his flowing blond hair:

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I wonder which side the members of this forum represent...
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My other opposite theme: bronze and gold of the same emperor (another possible theme from this could be near-perfect condition as opposed to low-grade)

I happen to have a rough-looking bronze follis of Byzantine emperor Anastasius (491-518 AD), and a shiny gold tremissis (1/3 of a solidus) of him. Thought the contrast was striking, not only in metal and condition, but in style as well. During this time the only serious die engraving effort went into striking silver and gold coinage, and is why they style-wise look nice and detailed compared to their bronze counterparts (although there are some good-quality bronzes of this period).

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Good stuff.

I'm surprised no one has entered an oldest/newest-- I did allow for ALL coins, including moderns to date, as long as one of the pair is ancient or medieval.

Condition opposites could be fun and interesting.
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some sweet coins on this page.
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Quote:
I'm surprised no one has entered an oldest/newest-- I did allow for ALL coins, including moderns to date, as long as one of the pair is ancient or medieval.


I had an idea that was pretty darn close to oldest/newest (though not literally it), but couldn't (yet) find a half-decent camera to get a decent photo of the 20th-century piece.
I suppose I could always try the camera from my new smartphone. But in that case the photos would be awful (that coin is tiny and in a 2x2 holder).
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Here is my entry: Opposite types of Emperors

Nero and Trajan were two very different types of Emperors. We know the story of Nero he an incredibley Hellenistic emperor who loved singing to the lyre, and poetry. Competing in public competitions and participating in the Olympic games. Trajan on the other hand was interested in expanding the empire and followed more traditional Roman values.

Where Nero had his mother killed, Trajan had family values in and took great care of his family. Trajan also invested in many public structures while Nero invested in his Domus Aurea!

Suetonius and Cassius Dio wrote that the people of Rome celebratedthe death of Nero. Tacitus, however, describes Nero's death as welcomed by Senators, nobility and the upper class and the lower classes who frequented the arena and the theater were upset. Regardless of this the coin I have displayed that someone clearly did not like Nero having deliberately punched out the eyes of both Nero on the obverse and Roma on the reverse. Nero is well known for his famous last words 'Qualis artifex pereo' - 'What an artist dies in me'

Trajan on the other hand has a reputation that has survived throughout history. Ancient sources on Trajan's personality and accomplishments are positive. Pliny the Younger describes Trajan as a wise and just emperor and a moral man. Cassius Dio states that he always remained dignified and fair. He was known as one of the virtuous pagans and in the Dante's Divine Comedy the spirit of Trajan is one of two examples of pagans in Heaven (the other being Ripheus of Troy)


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C'mon folks, get your entries in. Remember, a pair is ONE ENTRY. Some of you have another entry available.

So far there are only 15 entries. Let's see more!

Deadline for entry is this Friday evening.
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Thought I would make another entry before its too late ....

These two coins are opposite for a few reasons.

Political climate - 1st is Republican 2nd Imperial

Location - 1st was minted in Rome, the 2nd Croatia - opposite sides of the Adriatic sea.

Aesthetics - 1st is 'rainbow' toned silver the second dark green 'matt' bronze patina.

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M. Plaetorius M.f. Cestianus AR Denarius. 67 BC. Winged, helmeted bust of Vacuna right, wearing a wreathed and crested helmet, bow and quiver on shoulder, cornucopiae below chin, CESTIANVS behind, SC before / M. PLAETORIVS M.F. AED CVR, Eagle standing right on thunderbolt, head left. Cr409/1; Syd 809; Plaetoria 4. 3.97g, 18mm

The gens Plaetoria was of Sabine origin, and of the Cestianus family there are fifty seven varieties of coins engraved by Morell, all silver, amongst which there are pieces struck in honour of Brutus, including the celebrated EID MAR denarius.

This particular coin bears record to the curule aedileship of Plaetorius. Cicero himself notes that Plaetorius conducted himself memorably in that magistracy, and the types of his coins seem to allude to the same fact. The sella curulis on his other issue places this beyond dispute. The eagle and turreted bust of Cybele indicate that the public games sacred to Jupiter and Mater Magna were, as usual, caused to be performed by the curule aediles. The winged and helmeted bust on this issue is often identified with Vacuna, a Sabine goddess, and appears to pay homage to the Sabine origins of the Plaetoria gens.
However, Crawford suggests that this identification of the obverse bust as Vacuna is impossible, citing J.P. Morel. The bust appears to bear the attributes of a number of different deities, and has therefore been occasionally deemed a pantheon. The identity of this goddess is as such something of a mystery.


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Constans AE3. Siscia. DN CONSTA-NS PF AVG, pearl diademed, draped, cuirassed bust right / FEL TEMP-REPARATIO, emperor on galley left, holding labarum and phoenix on globe; Victory at the helm. Mintmark ASIS[Symbol 1] (symbol 1= resembles a T with an extra leg to the right). RIC VIII Siscia 244.
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