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New Member
United States
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Hi Everyone, My name is Thomas, and I am new to this forum. I recently purchased a 1929-D Mercury dime from ebay. I noticed that the obverse and reverse are not aligned. The reverse seems to be abou 20 degrees tilted. Is there a sure sign of a counterfeit coin? I read online that counterfeit coins are tilted.Just wondering if it is common for a 1929 Mercury dime to be tilted. If not, then I am thinking of reporting the seller on ebay. Here is a picture of the reverse while the observe is straight..Any input would be much appreciated. Thanks, Thomas *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***Edited by Rockee96 10/17/2013 11:49 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3755 Posts |
 No, that can easily be a mint error. But no one can make any kind of real comment if there are no pics. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2311 Posts |
That is a mint error. 
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Valued Member
United States
315 Posts |
It's not counterfeit, but usually a valuable error.
The counterfeit coins are usually 180 degree rotated (if you flip it sideways, they're both right side up.)
What did you pay for it? Was it graded? I'm looking online and it would be over $20 at AU 50 or higher. Usually if something is worth less than $20, it's not worth counterfeiting.
Edited by Superhal 10/18/2013 01:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sounds like die rotation. Generally no premium until it gets to be about 90 degrees or more.
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New Member
 United States
10 Posts |
Thank you everyone for your input and thoughts! I feel better about the coin now. It's good to know this is an error coin. Superhal, I paid around $22 for the coin from ebay. I think its worth about $25....It was not graded, but seller said it was a high AU grade.. Thanks again.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote: Is there a sure sign of a counterfeit coin? No. There is no one feature that EVERY counterfeit will have. Quote: I read online that counterfeit coins are tilted. Counterfeits are more likely to come with rotated dies than genuine coins are, but not all counterfeits have rotated dies, and some genuine coins do have rotated dies.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 As a general rule about 25% of all Mercury dimes are like that. The reverses are tilted to the left or right a bit and in some instances, well over a little. If you start putting Mercury dimes in an Album where you can see both the front and reverse, and you lined up all the Obverse, fronts, then turn the page you would see many, many of them are tilted left or right. I've got 12 Albums of Mercury dimes and as a guess, about 25% of the reverse are tilted. Even if you put them in a 2x2 and line up the front in the 2x2, turn it over and you'll see many are tilted. At one time I tried to tabulate if tilted to the left or right waw more prevelant but it came out basically the same. Some are really tilted a lot. It is fun to try to find them with the reverses tilted more than 1/4 of the way.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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25% of all mercs are tilted? Good to know before I sell the mercs that I have now  Better start searching.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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At one time I started to lay out many of my Merc Dimes in order of tiltiness. FAr left was a far tilted to the left and as they went to the right, they got straight then started to lean to the right. Was going to make a display of them but some were rather on the expensive side. So most ended up in Albums.
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Valued Member
United States
203 Posts |
Looks genuine, and tilt is not usually a sign of counterfeit. I just bought a 44D, slabbed, that has a slight bit of rotation. Some of my other mercs also have it as well to varying degrees. Fairly common, as stated before, once it gets beyond 90 degrees its valuable.
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New Member
 United States
10 Posts |
Thank you all! I am learning more and more each day.
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Pillar of the Community
Sweden
729 Posts |
And it can also be used as part of checking for genuineness of high value coins. The 16-D, for example, has a very specific die rotation.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Normal die rotation. Looks like a nice lil Merc dime.
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