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1838 Capped Bust Quarter. NGC. Let's Talk About It.

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 Posted 10/22/2013  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF-35.
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If this coin ain't original, I'll eat my own dirty underwear! Just curious, those who feel it has been cleaned, what are you seeing that leads you in that direction. Not trying to be argumentative, I am just truly curious. It is in a problem free holder by the way. I will reveal the grade tomorrow morning (if I can remember). Thanks for all the comments!
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 Posted 10/22/2013  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Naw, that's what truly original, never dipped surfaces look like.


Thanks for the info.


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Just curious, those who feel it has been cleaned, what are you seeing that leads you in that direction. Not trying to be argumentative, I am just truly curious. It is in a problem free holder by the way.


I don't think it is cleaned. I'm just hesitant because I've seen some crusty coins that are really dark get environmental damage classifications.

Apology to the OP for sidetracking the thread.
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 Posted 10/22/2013  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll go with VF-35.
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Joe2007, no apology needed. It may have seemed I was offended or annoyed on my earlier post. I was not. Sorry you thought I was. Demeanor doesn't always come through with the written word. I enjoy all comments and conversation as long as it's about coins, and I appreciate your comment as well, even if to disagree. : ). You are right about some dark coins being too dark from env. damage or artificial toning. Use this coin as a good reference for what an original piece looks like. Can anyone post a good example of AT and env. damaged coins to help show what the differences are? I don't have any right now.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  09:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, from the feedback consistently in the VF-30 range, maybe I shouldn't agree with the grade. A little under graded I guess. I'll probably bust her out and put her in a book to play with all her friends anyway.

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Wow, that seems pretty undergraded. That looks like atleast a vf-30 to me.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
worth a PCGS resubmission request for a VF30 and you'd probably get it.

awesome quarter nonetheless and if you crack it and resell it raw one day, you'll probably get VF30 money for it. I hope she enjoys her play-date with her friends in the years to come.
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Definately undergraded and worth a resubmit.
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NGC flat-out missed that one. Should be a 30 and is a candidate for review. It's not one where you should pay for re-grade, call NGC and explain that you feel an error has been made.
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My initial thought was also a VF 30 before seeing anyone else's posts and the grade of 20. Seems ungraded to me as well, like others have said I would crack it out and resubmit to PCGS
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Just for entertainment purposes, I have placed a PCGS VF30 example from CoinFacts below the OP's NGC VF20 in the image below. The NGC grade might be a clerical error in labeling?

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 Posted 10/24/2013  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpbone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, your VF-20 example from PCGS looks better than the VF-20 example off of the PCGS grading app. Comparing mine to these pics, it looks better than the VF-30. Check out this pic off of the grading app. The picture file is small though.

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jpbone: The example I posted is a VF30 piece from CoinFacts.
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BH1964: My bad. I see that now!
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