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1948 $1 - Hone Your Bad Picture Skills

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Grade opinions? I realize I should remove from holder and try to figure out my camera, but it's something for you guys to look at! I've had this coin over 40 years, and grandpa probably had it for another 20... so this is just for fun, I'll never sell it (but my kids might). In person, it's like a mirror. Any tips on photography welcome - I have a Canon SX110, in macro the lens is right on the coin and lighting is difficult.

Edit: Added different obv pic. The two white flecks aren't actually on the coin (I'll try again sometime). The ding on the cheekbone is more obvious in person, but the fields are pretty clean. Definitely has some marks, it ain't 64.

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Your grandpa had good taste in Canadian silver dollars. Very nice looking dollar. IMO it's looks to be around ICCS (Canadian Grading Co.) MS62 and possibly a MS63. In todays coin market it's value would be in the $2000-2500 range. (Just so your kids know). Thanks for sharing.
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Hi kbbpll, Yeah, too much light on a couple of your photos, the second pic is better but, show us a obverse shot.
Looks like a MS62/63 or so to me.
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My first thought was 64 but looking at the coin closer and considering Canadian standards a better grade would be 63/62+.
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I am far from a photographer, I just have a nice camera that makes me look like one. My simple advice for taking decent pictures would be to put the coin on a white surface (a piece of paper, a shirt, etc) have two lights hitting it from 10:00 and 2:00 (adjust the positions so that when taking a picture from directly above, the lighting brings out the best in the coin), and then take a picture of the coin from directly above it, and get the camera as close as you can while maintaining focus, and not interfering with the light. Once you have the picture, use Google Picasa to edit it. The goal is to make the coin look as realistic as possible. Use the "pick neutral colour" option on your white surface (this tells Picasa "this is white, adjust everything so that this is white"). Then just crop the picture so that only the coin shows.
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Hard to see the quality of the fields on the picture. MS63 on wear. Other than the cheek, I don't see too much else.
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Thanks for suggestions jg86. I'll try them. Problems I have are in natural light from straight above it looks like a scan, and under a lamp somehow it goes all golden. The dark areas in the two non-yellow pictures are actually reflections off the camera lens. I'll try different and multiple lights as you suggest, and Picasa. There are some nicks in front of the nose and by the A and the R in Rex, and above the 4 on reverse. Also the one on the neck which is more obvious. I know, hard to see. MS63 might be generous... I appreciate all your replies.
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MS-63.
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Did anyone notice the die rotation? It's only about 30 degrees, so I don't know if that qualifies. Is there a "diving canoe" variety? :)
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When taking my pictures I like to have the camera directly above the coin and use the flash. Then I take a piece of paper and put it over the flash to filter it. You can check out my pics to see if you like the results....key is to have the flash at 90 degrees or the coin will be dark.
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Hi Michael,

With all due respect - and while everyone may have their own different "techniques" with regards to taking coin pics - there's no doubt that blasting the light on coin from flash, whether filtered or not, can make the fields look mirrored even when they are not - marks / defects can be hidden behind reflection.

It's probably not the best way to accurately portray surface of coin - try turning off flash and using a light source.


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I disagree that the flash makes the coin looks better. Although it may light up part of a coin and give it a "sheen", it's easily distinguishable from the real thing. The flash actually causes an effect of light bouncing of every imperfection on the coin and there for amplifying those features not visible to the naked eye. As an example, scratches and hairlines will be far more visible with a flash then without. Natural light, or dull surrounding/indirect light will make those features less visible. Too much white light tends make the coins look more washed out.
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Just my opinion, it works well for me. I'm sure everyone has their own techniques that work for them. I've tried with natural and artificial light and it doesn't show the nicks and dings as thecoinhunter describes. As long as I have the flash filtered, it shows little glare. Here's an example of filtered flash directly over the coin...I should have pointed out that I don't use filtered flash on circulated coins, only mint coins.



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and this is my attempt at natural light.....



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Both coins are mint BU coins fresh from the roll. which one would sell better?

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