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Hello, I have just recently joined CC Forum. Besides world coins, I also do collect US - both pre-federal and early bust. Here is one of my recent pre-federal acquisitions, a Vermont Bust type dated 1787. Going by the Q. Bowers Encyclopedia on Colonial Coins this is a RR-14 variety. May I please have your comments, specifically regarding its condition. The planchet is smooth and a medium brown in color, much as described in the Encyclopedia as being not unusual for this variety. With regards, and thanking you for your help. Germanicvs    |
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It is indeed Ryder 14. Beautiful, problem free planchet.
Eye appeal is outstanding.
This is a very nice coin that I'm calling AU. Some central strike weakness.
I have several Vermont coppers but not this one.
I'd be proud of that one :-)
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Thank you very much, Vermontensium, for your prompt comment.
US colonial and early federal are a numismatic focus of mine. I have been able to add a few pieces to my collection over the years, and should be glad to discuss them here.
With regards,
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United States
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Wow.
I am impressed Sir, given the fact you are in Germany, and have a like to U.S. Colonial issues.
These are my passion, and would love to see your other coins at your schedule.
Great to have you here in our CCF family!
swcoin.ecrater.com
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United States
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What a beauty! Someday I hope to acquire some US colonials myself. For now I'm going after books on early US coppers and half and large cents, I'm sure that will lead me down the path into early colonial issues and federal coinage.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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United States
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beautiful coin....I haven't ventured into Colonials yet...but I'll get there! :)
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United States
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Absolutely beautiful! Love these Machins Mills types.
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11/05/2013 10:22 am
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 and Thank you for sharing  Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith Edited by cipster
11/05/2013 9:04 pm
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Welcome to the CCF ... You have a good eye for quality, Germanicvs.
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First ... to the CCF ... Hopeful GERMANICVS that you pull up a stool and enjoy the sharing that goes on here in this best of all coin forums. I would be remiss in my welcome if I failed to mention that vermontensium is an acknowledged CCF expert on these issues ... as a newcomer to this forum you do not have the benefit of 'knowing' the folks replying ... Trust that any reply from vermontensium should be construed as a true expert opinion. Hopeful that you shall soon hear from our other expert on this series ... Tremendous coin ... Thanks for sharing. David |
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I'm forced to admit it's only pure jealousy that's kept me from responding sooner. That coin is a beauty. If you admire early US coins, I hope you're aware of the many German-Americans who were vital to their creation, particularly John Reich, Adam Eckfeldt, and Henry Voigt. Still not sure about Abel Buell (of the Fugio coppers), as that is also an English surname. Looking forward to what else you have to share! |
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Abel Buell was born in 1742 in Killingworth,Ct. His parents more than likely immigrated from either Ireland or England. David, thank you for the kind words but there are a few here versed in the Colonial era and it's coinage..just like the guy above me swcoin.ecrater.com
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I have to admit, I joined this forum because I saw there are some truly knowledgeable people here (including in the World Coin Forum), and Vermontensium is one of them. I have here a coin which is very appropriate for him. Landscape variety with Vermontensium, RR-8. I have visited some of the historic sites in the US Northeast, specially in Massachusetts. Walking down some of the streets of Plymouth, Salem and Concord one still gets a sense of what it must have been like when the country was just being formed. I appreciate that history, and that is why I collect US coins.   |
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I'm impressed!
What another beautiful, problem free coin.
Ryder 8 denoted by the recut 1 and 9 trees. So many of the Vermont coppers struck at the Rupert mint were on inferior planchets, plagued with flaws and issues.
This is an exception. Nice above average flan, well centered, and nicely struck.
If you ever get back to the East coast, you have to go to Rupert.
It humbled me. I searched for the Minthouse along Millbrook stream and found a colonial erastone foundation that was indicative of accounts I have studied as to where the Mint possibly stood.
I'm going back someday to try to find any kind of definitive proof.
I did manage to bring back a few Colonial era artifacts from the era including horse bits and square nails..possibly from the Mint house!
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Very nice colonials. The light brown color is extraordinary especially on your Vermont. Its not to often I see coppers that have such even coloration. I cant imagine those were easy to come by in Germany. I can wait to see what else you have to share.
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Thanks for sharing another beautiful Colonial. As you can see from my avatar, I also enjoy the colonial coins but only have a few in my collection.
We are so fortunate to have experts like vermontensium, philadelphian, and others so willing to share their knowledge with newbies like myself. I hope you decide to stay on and be a part of the community.
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