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Is There A Comprehensive Dollar Coin Error List?

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 Posted 06/20/2007  8:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Madmartigan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Has anyone compiled or found a comprehensive list of errors found on the new dollar coins? I just lucked up on a brand new roll of Washington dollars. Debating if should open it up to look for errors or just put the roll in my safe.

I've just started to look for error coins so I'm a complete noob.
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 Posted 06/20/2007  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When looking for errors don't follow a "list" - just look for things that don't look normal. Get used to what the design is supposed to look like and question everything that doesn't look like what it's supposed to. The only time you want to bother with lists of known examples is in repeated things such as doubled dies and mintmark varieties, of which none are known in the Presidential dollars. Since errors are generally strictly coin to coin, lists would be worthless.
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 Posted 06/21/2007  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yechi7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Far be it from me to differ with CC. I know a tiny fraction of what he knows about coins. Very true what he said re: "question everything that doesn't look like what it's supposed to." And "Since errors are generally strictly coin to coin, lists would be worthless." Always look for something new!

However, many have discovered certain error "patterns" with the Presidential coins. For instance, the Washington "Smooth Edge" & the Adams "Double Lettering Edge."

Besides these mentioned above, I've noticed other patterns.

Several people have found the Washington "Filled Die Chip in the First S in States," & the Washington " Struck Through Grease Starburst," which sometimes is on the front or the back of the coin, & sometimes both sides.

Several people have found the Adams " Die Cud or Chip Above the First T in States," & the Adams " Struck Through Grease Without Starburst," which almost always affects both the front & back of the coin.

These particular error "patterns" have been "unique" to the different coins, except for the instances of rare exceptions, like the rare Adams "Smooth Edge," or the rare Adams "Filled Die Chip in the First S in States."

I've examined close to 4,000 Presidential dollar coins (so far) & have seen these unique error "patterns" in both the coins I've examined personally & the coins I've seen promoted on ebay.
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 Posted 06/21/2007  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Madmartigan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info. Being new to it I've been reading every article, etc. I could find. Picked up a book about error coins today from BAMM. I also purchased a x16 glass and good lamp today to study the coins under.
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 Posted 06/21/2007  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CPChicago to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also purchased some new Adams dollars to check and have been looking for errors. I agree with coppercoins, I started by reading the previously mentioned lists of errors, but when you get into it it's easier to start comparing the coins to one another. Now I have a couple that I question (I too am an error newbie) and need to figure out what to do with.

sidenote: I could definitely use a better magnifier, that's for sure. What did you purchase madmartigan (sorry, it's off topic, I know)?
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 Posted 06/21/2007  7:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Madmartigan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I picked up a cheap 16x lens by H.G Harris & Co (19.99 or less) from Books a Million. Stopped in there to look for the error book, a 1800s world coin book, etc. and just spotted it. From what I've read so far a 5x hand lens is good for routine exams of large numbers of coins. A lens of at least 10X up to 20X for detailed examinations.

If interested I'm reading "The Officeal Price Guide to Mint Errors", 7th ed by Alan Herbert. He also suggest a few books I look at when I was in BAMM so I may go pick those up when have the funds.
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 Posted 06/22/2007  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yechi, et.al. - You prove my point in knowing what the "normal" looks like if you see patterns of errors showing up. Whether the errors you find are based on patterns or are single examples doesn't matter when you get acclimated to what a "normal" coin for the issue looks like then pull anything that's different. This is the best method to spot everything.

Case in point...slightly different subject, one I actually do know something about. Die varieties. 1960D Lincoln cents are known for producing large numbers of repunched mintmarks. Actually there are nearly 160 different ones known, and only a few of them are scarce. Many people ONLY look at the mintmark on them because there are fewer than a half dozen different doubled dies known. They are all scarce and show up very infrequently. When people ask the age-old question, "what should I look for?", many would tell them to just bother with the mintmark because the chances of finding a doubled die are very tiny. They are automatically limiting themselves from finding the most valuable coins they should be searching for.

My point is this...if you know what the normal looks like, it's far easier to spot the abnormal. Use this as the rule when searching any denomination for anything. The more observant you are, the more likely you could discover something nobody else has found before. Learn the design features for each year and what makes the different years look different. SOMEBODY had to have discovered that there were Wide AM and Close AM cents for 1992, 1992D, 1998, 1999, and 2000 cents. There's a whole market based on just those...and they would look completely normal to anyone who was not observant.
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