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1974 Aluminum Lincoln Memorial Cent - Don't Freak Out.

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Hello all,

I have collected coins for a few years and know the basics, but something struck me the other day. I came across some pennies that obviously didn't look like normal uncirculated pennies (I had uncirculated pennies next to these "other" pennies). I even had a 1974 penny to compare these to. At first I brushed them off, and the next day I came back to them.

In the late 70s my grandmother had bought a bag that included the following: 1) Magnifying glass with a 1964 dime, quarter, and nickel. 2) A letter opener with uncirculated 1964 pennies(marked Made in USA). 3) A paperweight with three 1974 pennies. I noticed the dramatic difference in detail in the hair, face, and color.So, I began looking into these three coins and finding what they could be. I'm not one to believe in finding rare items, and just put them aside. I found some steel pennies, 70-80 wheat pennies, and War Nickels and was running late so I dropped them into the bag. The next night I came back to the bag to analyze the coins, but the 1974 pennies kept coming to mind.

I noticed the deposit bag had a name on the bag so I googled the bank and famous people to live in this city. Surprisingly, a US senator who began his senate term in 1969 and was in office beyond 1974 lived in this town. Now this town isn't very big (less than 3,000 people) and it is a very small bank. What a coincidence I thought, so I found Mary Brooks and noticed she was a Republican and this same senator is a Republican. I had a friend who knows absolutely nothing about coins and could careless about anything(that's why I chose him) and he noticed(as did i) 2 of the coins looked similar, but one looked different(all same color). I have came across information that said the coins were different prototypes.

This senator was a delegate at the national convention, big supporter of Nixon, and was involved in many key bills during the time period. I tried placing a time of production on the bag, but was unable to find much on it. The bag is hand stitched and resembles other bank deposit bags from the 50s and 60s.

I really don't know what to think. They were purchased in Bellevue, Nebraska (where Offutt air force base is). The bank and senator are on the East Coast. The senator does have pictures online with generals and fighter pilots. The senator was forced to resign for illegal activity, so I believe he had the personality to keep the coins.

I'm reluctant to post all of this, but I really don't know what to believe.

1) They are definitely not copper! In strong light, they are so shiny and beautiful.

2) Would a senator buy a letter opener, magnifying glass, and paperweight?

3) Why would someone place rare pennies in a paperweight?

4) Any ideas?

1974-Aluminum-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Don't-Freak-Out.
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11/09/2013 10:28 pm
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 Posted 11/09/2013  9:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jrock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I forgot to include that they had no mint mark.
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to the CCF!

Are you able to share a photo of the paperweight with coins inside?

Your story ... while interesting ... is very implausible regarding any 1974 Aluminum cents ...

Photos please.

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Don't know why the picture uploaded that way... Trying to upload a few more.

1974-Aluminum-Lincoln-Memorial-Cent---Don't-Freak-Out.
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They look plated to me.
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 Posted 11/09/2013  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jrock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Plated as in they could be authentic? I have read so many different views, words, and opinions on these pennies my head has been turning.

One last picture.

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I agree, they look plated. I don't think the aluminium penny would be shined that much, also the details don't look too sharp.
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I think they might be plated as in fake...
Can you post the weight?

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Do the magnifying glass and letter opener have coins in acrylic like the paperweight does?

They were probably gifts given to the senator -- a desk set maybe -- and he if he kept them he probably had to because it would be rather bad taste for him to try to sell them give them away. (Imagine seeing a something you gave to someone at the local Goodwill store.) His family would sell them, or give them away, after he passed away because they were not actual personal items that held any memories for them.

Anyway, they are probably all novelty items and may have some collector value if you can figure out where and when they were made. Clearly they were made before 1964 and mid-century stuff is becoming quite collectible.
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It is hard to see the detail in the picture because of the case. Using a magnifying glass the detail is far greater than a typical 1974 penny.

The senator was actually arrested and did 18 months in jail and was sued by the U.S. Government. The population of the town is 1700. My biggest mystery is if someone would have had the resources to place "fake" aluminum pennies in a deposit bag from the bank in the same town as a senator?
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DO you have these cents in hand?
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Yes I do have them... Maybe it's just the bag and the story behind the cents making me look into them... I didn't post pictures at first because the pictures I had taken to examine didn't look as good as they do under a magnifying glass. I am definitely glad to hear what you guys think.
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Quote:
Can you post the weight?


This would answer your question rather quickly. They do look plated.
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They look like a reprocessed steel cent. Even by the small chance they are aluminum I'm not even sure if they are legal to own. Either way, they dont look right.
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 Posted 11/09/2013  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jrock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked for hours to find the same paperweight case to see the weight. I can't remove them without breaking the case, so that is why I came here.

Most cases, magnifying glasses, and letter openers were made in Canada, but the magnifying glass is Made in USA.

I do agree they are rather shiny.
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