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MS-70 Or Acetone For Kennedy Half's

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I obtained a group of Kennedy halfs (clad) and I believe they were stored improperly. ALL including proofs have a tone to them and a disgusting milky haze from the moisture and 2x2 mylar holders... I want to remove the haze and start another book.

Being that its clad coins will MS70 work? Do I need to use acetone? I know the rule about cleaning but these coins need a bath. I got a great deal and they are all Uncirculated mint.

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You have an interesting question.

I kind of think that unless the coin is in danger of being eaten up by corrosion that I should leave it alone.

Post a photo of one of them and maybe someone who has tried it can let you know how it will turn out.

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Thank you.. it is pretty much for eye appeal. Its your typical haze you see from coin flaps.
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If the haze you speak of is brownish at all. It is from being dipped in silver coin cleaner...it turns clad coins brown permanently.
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No there is a slight tone, same tone I've seen from proof sets from the mint that are aged a bit but no what I am speaking of is the pvc haze grime.
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I bought some proofs from a shop and the guy cleaned the coins in the back but would not tell me what he uses. "Trade secret" he said.
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The MS70 should do fine with the haze. I've used it on clads before.
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Isn't MS70 a grade?!
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@penny

yes it is, its also a coin cleaner for lack of a better word.

http://www.amazon.com/MS-70-oz-Coin...p/B000YQBZPE

Im pretty sure that links it. Not sure if coins would grade or not after it but I have heard that it will change the color of copper coins.
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Only one of those two substances is an inert chemical, and only one of the two does anything about PVC plasticizer outgassing.

MS70 is a cleaning agent. Any coin you use it on is then cleaned, by definition. The manufacturer calls it a "coin cleaner."

So you can figure what my opinion is of it.
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Is it more harmful than dipping a Morgan ?
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Definitely try acetone FIRST! MS70 would be a last resort IMO. Acetone will not damage the coins but I can't say the same for MS70, so you have nothing to lose with acetone.
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Is it more harmful than dipping a Morgan ?


No, not even close. MS70 is essentially soap and water, understanding I won't recommend that for a coin either. The Kennedys here need to go into acetone first, to ensure that what Pipewelder is seeing isn't PVC. Beyond that, I suspect any further step will do more harm than good, and if acetone won't remove it, MS70 doesn't stand a chance.
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I did a lot or reading about what to use.. These 2 always pop up.. I just really want to know what the LCS used, he made that proof POP and look new...
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No, not even close. MS70 is essentially soap and water,


MS70 is a detergent and water-based cleaner. It is fairly safe as cleaners go, but should only be used as a last resort when water, acetone and xylene fail.
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I have dipped plenty of clad coins and never had one turn brown. First I have heard that one.

But yes, acetone first.
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