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is this an error and if so about how much would it be worth? when I first saw it I was thinking that it was a fake but then I looked at the green "20" and noticed that the sparkles even transfered.

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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is this for sale on ebay?

It looks like the image of the obverse was scanned and the serial was edited out and then reversed. Then it was either photoshopped or physically printed onto the reverse of the same or different bill.

What looks suspicious is the same crease to the left of Jackson's chin on the obverse is present in the mirror image that is on the reverse.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no its a bill that I got from my work. the things on the obverse was just my scanner not scanning well. in person it looks completely normal. The thing that really stood out to me was the "20" on the reverse because it has the sparkles in it that they "20" from the obverse has.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I most certainly could be wrong and I hope I am

I'd stick around for some other opinions and insight.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I did check when I was at work, I know it is a real bill because out counterfeit pen said it was real and it does has have the proper "USA TWENTY" strip in side of it.
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 Posted 06/24/2007  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also if you click on the actual image it clears some of the spots out and looks better
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The bill is real it's just the extra error image that I wasn't sure about. The counterfeit pens interact with the paper...not the ink.

If it's a legit error it might get $40+ on ebay but I'm not sure. Most 20$ errors staring bids on ebay are so inflated that a Lot don't even sell. After looking at several other examples I'm leaning more towards possibly being legit however that small crease in the ink copy leaves me wondering.
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These are two complete obverse overprint notes I have that are only 4 serial numbers apart. They are UNC and nearly sequential which makes them more valuable.

Your note is a partial obverse overprint. It isn't the rarest error ever made, but with this kind of error, the condition it's in, and as far as market prices go on ebay, I would say it's worth $60-$80 range.

Mine costed me $220 for the pair. And a coin dealer in town has ONE ten dollar obverse overprint error in circulated condition and he still wants $300 for the single one. Yeah, it's a reidiculous price if you ask me, but if someones willing to buy it then I guess the notes worth that much. Bet it takes him a while to sell it.
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wow I love the look of those 10s, I wouldnt pay 300 for one of them though that really is crazy. but I bet your right its gotta take him for ever to sell that. I really just love the old style notes, but I really like them with the error they are very nice.
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this is the 2nd one of these that I have found in the last few months. I think you looked at the other one I had found Is-This-An-Error?
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The one is most likely fake. Bills are printed in layers and there would have been more messed up on a real one. There are alot of these one ebay. Some one with a stamp
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 Posted 06/24/2007  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
on this one you can actually see where it had been folded over and taken from the other side. the places that its missing on the print the ink is still dark and where it is copied its all faded. I have another photo that shows it better but I cant seem to find it at the moment.
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 Posted 06/25/2007  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tykimeister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you would be interested in trading, I have many old style notes. Just give me a PM.
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 Posted 06/27/2007  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add san_miguel98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
your $20 note has what's called an offset error, (or sometimes a wet ink transfer).

the $1 is a different story. it's obvious the note was folded over, and some of the ink stuck to the other side. I'm pretty confident it wasn't a mint-made error. as laxmaster stated, notes are printed in layers. both of the seals and serial numbers are printed at the same time during the note's "third printing". if the ink was still wet during the 3rd printing, the serials and green seal would have transferred as well. I'm thinking the note was moist in somebody's sweaty wallet, was sat on, and dried with the two sides being pressed together.
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very cool. wish I knew more about currency
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ElCerritoCoins:
Hang around, the members here are really smart and don't mind sharing their info. Ask away. I've learned tons of info since joining.
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