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Valued Member
United States
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I feel in love with this coin when I saw it the first time.  I got it off ebay. It took a few weeks of offers but finally we made a deal. The obverse has a hit in the lower neck and there is a few bag marks around the eye area. It is starting to get a little rim toning. The reverse, is just beautiful. It has this spotty "kaleidoscope" style toning that is awesome. It seriously has a lot of rainbow to it and at different angles in light just jumps around while in hand. What do you guys think about the grade on this one?   |
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I wish I could see it in hand. It sounds like the pictures fall short.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
11922 Posts |
MS-63.
Edited by Joseph7420
12/05/2013 7:52 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
110 Posts |
The pictures are what they are, but indeed in hand this coin makes you smile! I am thinking 63 also, it would be higher if there wasn't the chatter near the eye.
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Moderator
 United States
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Boy, do I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings here because you're so happy with this coin.
This one shows the classic symptoms of retoning after being cleaned, quite possibly done deliberately. First, the striations of brushing are quite clear on the obverse cheek, extending southwest-northeast. That is not a natural feature on a Morgan, and even if it's innocent it proves the coin has circulated. Second, the toning pattern on the reverse (and the splotchy toning on the obverse) are completely unnatural on a Morgan. They just_don't_tone this way in the wild.
And have a look to the left of the eagle's right (viewer's left) wing - see those horizontal lines? I think you';ll be unhappy with how extensive they are once you study it more closely.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Unfortunately  with SD has that cleaned and retoned by some sort of accelerator. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AU55...Not natural toning. The value of this coin is low because of this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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its a great coin to have for a reference on AT
especially if you're a Morgan collector. having this coin in your collection will allow you to grow and make more informed decisions in future purchases and thats almost priceless in itself.
i would venture to say nearly every collector on this forum has an example or two in their collection that allows for educational reference and it helped them grow in their numismatic studies
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Moderator
United States
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Even before reading comments, the mottled toning and the color pattern worried me.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Gotta agree with SD and the others on cleaned and AT. Pretty much a classic example
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Valued Member
United States
110 Posts |
Psshhhh that toning is real and the coin is not cleaned.....  After I posted how nice it looked in hand in reply to Dave700x's post, I began to play with the coin. I noticed it just wasn't grabbing my eye... Then I just started noticing how it doesn't really cartwheel. So I went to bed, and woke up today hoping there was some more post about this coin. And after reading through this thread, I realize my eyes were bigger than my stomach, so to speak. SsuperDdave, I would prefer rain on my parade than having a parade for an unworthy cause, so thanks for the heads up and honesty. Same to everyone else! I totally see the brushing on the reverse and see the lines on Liberty's cheek plain as day. I just really liked that toning, and looked past the point of scrutiny to see what I wanted to see. I don't feel stupid, I just wish it weren't so.... As stated, bought this guy on ebay and there is a hassle free return policy so I should be good there. I thank all you folks for letting me down gently, and not being harsh. Understanding and having patience for the NOOB is much appreciated and respected. You guys are really the best folks! Glad I am here..... |
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United States
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I would be interested to know if the seller honors the return... Sadly to say you are not alone in the boat. I have a coin that I want to return but the seller is being trying... Can you let us know if the seller keeps his word?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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ClubMedka don't beat yourself up too hard. All of us have been there at one point in time! My weakness are shows - I fall in love with something at a show every time. It took a few times of getting home and thinking "uh-oh" before I figured out how to take several deep breaths before making a purchase at a show.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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ClubMedka
might be worth keeping for an educational piece, no?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I'm in the AU-58 camp on this one. With a possible details grade.
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United States
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I will gladly let you know if the seller commits to the return Jolson. He has a hassle free return policy and has communicated with me very well so far. I also bought 2 other commons from him that I will post up here sometime that I plan on keeping so I think he will honor the return. DS, I would love to keep it, even just for a conversation piece, but I have too much $$ wrapped up in it for the condition it is in. But I see the value in retaining and studying this coin, it just doesn't surpass what I paid which was more than 100$. Kelly, I hear ya! That adrenaline kinda takes over and you start looking around to see if anyone else is seeing what you are seeing! Well, I haven't had that experience with a coin yet... But have had several with vintage music gear! I am sure it is the same, especially the going home and doing a gut check after you get clear of the excitement.... Just breathe lol. Thanks again guys
Edited to correct mis-spelled name.
Edited by ClubMedka
12/07/2013 5:31 pm
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