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http://www.ebay.com/itm/141113328727It's definitely not AU. The diamond on the reverse is about half worn, although not into the orbs, so that's EF40. My issue is with the obverse... the "wear" on the shield is probably a very weak die clash (3CS are notorious for these). The "wear" on the S of stateS is strike weakness. The outlines are intact with distinct wear on at least 3 of the five star lines, so that is also EF40. And I see the ding at 4 o'clock. But what gives with scratches and wear all over the field? What natural process would cause this and not touch the high spots? -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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I have a feeling this one might be ex-jewelry, or was used as a horseshoe.  It sure isn't a $180 coin either way. |
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Looks more EFish than AU. The coin coin might of have been dark and someone might have rubbed it a bit to remove some of the toning and give it more of a circulation cameo look to it.
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It's a fake or an ex-cuff link.
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12/11/2013 9:59 pm
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Fake? What diagnostics lead you to say that?
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The lack of depth in the arrows and the bow that wraps them.
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I see what you mean, unlike many years the '56s tend to be well struck.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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I looked at a bunch of the ebay listings for '56 and none of them appeared like this one. I figured if an over-polished die variety like this exists there would likely be one on ebay. |
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In my quest (it started as part of my typeset but now has turned into a full fledged obsession to build a EF/AU set, plus a set of 52 PITDs and then onto the RPD and DD varieties...) I've probably looked at over 250 coins at shows and I knew something was off... I just couldn't figure out WHAT.
I doubt btw that there was that much die polishing on the 56s - they only averaged 6k coins / die (1.5m over 25 dies). vs. the 1852s with 18m coins over 100 dies...
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/Edited by BStrauss3
12/13/2013 09:11 am
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This is why I eluded to the possibility of this being a fake. It would have been a tremendous amount of die polishing to remove that much detail.
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With regards to the arrows and bow, you may be interested to see this example. It looks similar though maybe not quite as weak as the one in the ebay listing. It shows signs of die clashing which may be a reason to polish the die despite a low mintage. |
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