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1904 H Newfoundland 20 Cent (You Vs. PCGS) (Grade Posted)

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I'll post what PCGS graded it at in a day or so.

Thanks for looking.


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I think ICCS would grade it VF.

I'd say PCGS has an XF on that one (I sure hope I'm wrong for PCGS's sake).
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VF20 (very likely higher in a PCGS slab)
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I'll go higher and say VF-30.
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VF20 by Canadian standards
Could go as high as EF in a PCGS slab.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I'll say PCGS graded it, EF-40
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VF 20 in an ICCS holder V35 in a PCGS holder.
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VF20 PCGS OR ICCS these days. I know you gents like to harp on the fact that ICCS always grades lower but I would say that in recent history (2/3 years) that has not been the case (on the most part with some net grading being the exception). I've cross graded 6 coins from US TPGs to ICCS, all different coins, at different grade levels, ALL come back at par. Also, I recently submitted 4 x 1964 mint wrapped PL Dollars from an original mint box (shipped from RCM in 1964) to NGC and ICCS. All 8 coins came back PL65 (4 ICCS, 4 NGC). So where I agree that in some cases there has been disparity, it would be unfair to say that it exists with any consistency today.
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PCGS EF 45 ICCS VF 20 maybe 30 ?
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1904-H-Newfoundland-20-Cent--You-Vs.-PCGS-Grade-Posted

Most of y'all had it pretty much nailed. And thanks for the info. It is good to know more clearly about the differences in Canadian grading and American grading.
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Right on Pacificoin,and another nail in the coffin for TheCoinHunter's theory.While NGC and PCGS are getting much better at reliably grading uncirculated Canadian coins,they continue to suck at grading in the F-AU ranges,getting it wrong at least 75% of the time and misleading unsuspecting collectors into situaions where they will part with too much money for a given coin.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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I would have graded this one VF-30 myself. The NFLD Edward VII strikes are notoriously weak, and anyone who has ever held a mint state coin from this series in their hands, would understand. The only fully struck 20-cent coin from 1904H that I have ever seen, is the one formerly from the Point Grey collection (PCGS MS-67).

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SPP,I think your vision is obscured by smoke from the toaster ;)

Here's a once reasonably well struck VF30 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904-1904H-...em5d305c6a1b

And a weakly struck VF30 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1904H-Newfo...em1e73f02663

Neither of these coins exhibit as much wear as the OP's VF35
As for the PCGS MS67 in your link,the regalia,inner collar and eye area appear to suffer from typical Edwardian weakness.You'll reply it looks better in hand,but an MS67 professionally photographed should exhibit a superior strike.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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