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Received this beauty in the mail today. It has a bold date, excellent detail, especially the fact that all the vertical lines are present in the central shield area. It also has soft subdued luster over the fields. The only downside is that light wispy toned over scratch below "TY" on the obverse. It's very evident in the photos, but not in hand unless you look really close or under a loupe. The seller actually said in the listing that he thought it was a die crack. I mentioned this to him in an email, and since I still really wanted the coin for my collection, he agreed to give me a partial refund. I don't think the scratch is significant enough to warrant a TPG details grade, though I think it may drop the grade down a notch. Anyways, grade away.   Edited by johnny54321
01/08/2014 10:57 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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WOW! I am in at XF40 to XF45. Yes, circulated, but treated very well.
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thanks guys! What do you think about the scratch? It is long and thin, but not visible unless the light hits it right. It does not "shine", and only looks black, so its very old.....the fact that it is so long is what concerns me. Personally I don't think it is severe enough to result in a details grade, but it is a tough call being a higher grade circulated coin. I think a TPG might drop it down a grade from what it would be otherwise, what do you think? |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I see this one at EF40. My concern is there are indications of cleaning
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My concern is there are indications of cleaning ? This coin is definitely original, at least market acceptably so(sometimes old dips go unnoticed). |
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United States
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PCGS may drop a grade for scratch. If you check lot 3680 heritage auction it was a 16/16 buffalo I sent for grading clearly a vf 20 came back VG 10 scratches on face and big mold spot on reverse so they dropped 2 grades in my opinion. I sold it on ebay may 20th 2012 for $7,000. And the buyer got the same at heritage on sept 6th. Great coin to own even for a month. Point being a 21 is a better coin and they are not as fast to give detail grade. |
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thanks for the info Mike!
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Man, this is a great great quarter Johnny! Here's what I see. I'm all about the EF40/45 but I also see what looks like some signs of cleaning. Particularly the field under 'IB' in Liberty on the obverse and 'RTY' near that scratch that concerns you. If you ask me, someone checked a little to hard to see if it was a scratch or could be rubbed out? I also see some horizontal abrasions on the reverse in the field to the left of the left wing. Could be the pic, what do they look like in hand? Then again, those marks could be just abrasions from whatever caused the rim ding on the left? All that together could net it a details grade?
Still, dude, I admire this coin! I would gladly pay you $12.65 for it if you decide not to keep it... Okay, $13 and shipping. :)
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You guys must have better eyes than me. I see no signs of cleaning, even under a 30x loupe. The only thing I see in the areas you mention rking is subdued mint luster. Maybe its my photography or lighting that is throwing it off. Sure, there are a few scattered circulation hairlines, like most circ slqs have...but the color and surface quality looks completely original to me. I have handled quite a few cleaned slqs, including a cleaned 1921. I actually have several cleaned slqs in my collection that need to be upgraded..:-)
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Thanks for the opinions. Personally, I think it would have a shot at AU if they did not deduct for the scratch. Taking the scratch into account, I'd guess market grade is XF-40 to 45.
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I don't think this coin would make AU with or without the scratch. It is a beauty and grades a 40 to my eyes.
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XF40. I don't think they would ding it for that scratch. Any larger would warrant a details grade IMO.
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