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Valued Member
United States
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Here is the original post https://goccf.com/t/166773#166773Hello, I just got a new reverse picture and it is much clearer although still leaves much do be desired. Can you help me with the grade? Here is the new Pic  Old Pics:   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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send it in to PCGS or NGC and let us know
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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At this level it really needs to be viewed in-hand. Could easily be a 65 but the new photos look semi-PL or possibly even polished.
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Valued Member
 United States
159 Posts |
I don't have the coin and these are seller pics. Honesty this coin scares me, I don't want to get burned if it has an issue or if there is some hidden circulation wear.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If the price is right and the seller allows returns then go for it. How much do they want? Did they state why it isn't already slabbed?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Do you happen to have a new picture of the obverse?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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 A picture of the obverse would help. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Are those mint marks the same in both pics? Optical illusion perhaps... Prob the same  Edited by rupester
01/16/2014 02:30 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm still at MS64+ on this one, though an in hand inspection is a must, gold is a very soft metal and a tiny rub would go unnoticed in photos like these. The only obvious marks I see a very light contact mark on the chin. I think the rims look okay now from the original shot, but a coin like this really can't be graded from a couple of photos online properly. Get a return guarantee before committing to it, and I'd only get the coin if it were from a long time dealer with credibility, otherwise there are many other dealers out there. You get what you pay for, not to be nosy but is the dealer charging MS63, MS64 or MS65 money? There is a significant difference in value, and for you to put your trust in them they need to have a great track record in selling and buying coins like this. Can you perhaps have it submitted to PCGS or NGC after you get it, (Knowing the time frame will be much more than 2 weeks) and get either a partial refund if the grade doesn't come close, or a full refund if the coin is not genuine? Now if the coins is sold as a MS63 and comes back MS65, would you then pay more? Tough call, if it were me, I would not do the deal unless it was face to face and the coin was in my hand for inspection, and I know a little about gold, probably more than the average collector, but not enough I'd feel comfortable in calling it a MS64 vs. MS65+
It's any where from an AU at $520 to $2725 in MS65 where does the price you are being offered fall in that range?
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Valued Member
United States
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It is the same coin, What do you think about the fields in the reverse pic?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The slight disturbances on the reverse fields would not preclude a gem grade and the rest of the coin is "all there".
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The slight disturbances on the reverse fields would not preclude a gem grade and the rest of the coin is "all there". P.S. I should have said, "... if the rest of the coin is all there". Without seeing it in-hand, there's no way to be sure. Good luck! Edited by BH1964
01/16/2014 8:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Without seeing it in-hand, there's no way to be sure. THIS ^ "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Tell the Seller you want an extended return so you can send the coin in for authentication and grading. If he does not agree then YOU then know that: 1) it's already been sent in; and 2) it has problems.
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