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1857 Flying Eagle One Cent

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 Posted 01/18/2014  9:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sirelothar to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all. I haven't posted in a while but I recently managed to get a hold of one of these by a bit of luck (it was mixed in with a lot of dimes from my grandfathers collection) and I'd like to know if it looks real and if possible the approximate worth. Thanks as always. American coins aren't really my strong point so the help is appreciated.

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 Posted 01/18/2014  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fixguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin. A few on E-bay. Hope this helps but it looks a bit better than most
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...857&_sacat=0
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 Posted 01/18/2014  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't clean it.
MS 63 or better.
A soak in acetone might remove some the the crud on the reverse. Verdi-Care works wonders too.
Beautiful.
Worth roughly $1000 at MS 63 if the reverse can be saved.
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This doesn't quite match the Dime we last talked about, but it's another nice coin to look at.

I see no reason to believe it's not authentic. I'm going to disagree slightly with the previous poster and opine that it might_just have seen the slightest bit of circulation; I base this opinion on what I see on the leading edge of the wing and the bottom of the tailfeathers. I don't really see as much detail as I'd like to on the reverse leaves, either. These could also be functions of strike quality, so take my opinion as tentative. Another factor is the marks which appear on the coin, which I'm unsure could be caused by something other than circulation contact. I'm going to call it AU55, with a bare minimum value of somewhat over $300, which of course would rise should the grade come out higher.

The spotting on the reverse may be something which could be helped by appropriate conservation techniques, but this is a step which must be considered very carefully. They don't seem to me to be a progressive type of coloration, so not an imperative removal, and one must consider what the surface underneath them would look like if they're removed. That surface will not have aged at the same rate as the rest of the coin, and might appear as "bright" spots which would be a sure indicator that work has been performed on the coin. This would have a serious effect on the value of the coin, as originality is treasured above all with coins.
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Yes, it is real. That's a very nice coin! Handle it with care - do not try acetone or Verdi-care before you've practiced on dozens of other coins first. An error on your part could cut the value by half.
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 Posted 01/18/2014  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yhbearcats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU-58, just slight wear on it in the places superdave mentioned.

Value around $300 to $350
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 Posted 01/18/2014  10:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sirelothar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks as always for the replies guys. I really do appreciate it. I like to read these forums and often don't have much to contribute since I'm not much of an expert, more of a casual collector. I try to handle all my coins very carefully and I don't clean them in any way.

I actually sold that dime at an auction here a few months ago and received a very good price for it (2.3k once all the fees were taken out) SsuperDdave.

Thank you all again for the help!!
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I actually sold that dime at an auction here a few months ago and received a very good price for it (2.3k once all the fees were taken out) SsuperDdave.


I couldn't be more pleased to hear that; it means the coin was even nicer than we thought.
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Off topic slightly:

When I heard Dave mention the dime my curiosity was peaked so I did a search. Wow o wow that dime was gorgeous.

Did you get it certified? What did it grade at?

This cent is nicer than any Flying Eagle I own.

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Very nice coin! I also think I see a trace of circulation--high AU.
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When I heard Dave mention the dime my curiosity was peaked so I did a search. Wow o wow that dime was gorgeous.

Did you get it certified? What did it grade at?


I had it pegged at 63 (like everyone else), which would be in line with the price realized if it were in a PCGS slab.
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I don't see any wear on your FEC. Nice looking coin with original luster..I see no evidence of impaired surfaces.
The reverse carbon spotting I would not mess with. Trying to conserve this coin might make the matter worse.
I like it at MS63
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THIS is a SUPERB Flying Eagle. Don't clean it though. MS63/64!
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Tricky to put a value on these high end coins, so much depends on what grade it is assigned.
Great photo by the way and I'd say the coin brings $700-800 anyway. More wouldn't surprise me at all.
The reverse detail is superb and although there are some hits to the rim I believe the coin to be MS
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@MeadowviewCollector I did not personally get it certified. The auction place did it on their own at PCGS and I'd be lying to you if I knew the grade. The auctioneer was very confident that it was a real coin and a few months passed before that auction actually happened. It caught me off guard receiving the check because I wasn't keeping track of it and honestly I almost forgot about the auction. I sold a few Thalers there as well but the main interest of course was that dime. I don't have the buyers information unfortunately. I do have the auction guys name and number, I'll give him a call and see what it was since I'm fairly sure he keeps a log of those but likely won't be a photo of the slab or anything. :(
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I think this coin is MS, but lower MS. Maybe MS-61. Too many carbon marks, and the luster isn't strong enough for 63...but I don't see any wear either. Detail wise, it is definitely stronger than my PCGS AU-55. Nice one!
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