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Was This Once A Copper Coin?

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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:23 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Spott to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this in a local coin store's 10 cent bin. I asked if it was a coin and they shrugged and gave it to me for free. Is there enough information present to guess what it might have been? I took a few photos with different lighting angles and included a US penny to show the size.

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 Posted 01/23/2014  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keepcalmandcoinon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea but it looks pretty interesting. Hopefully someone will be able to I.d. it.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alganbagerap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks something like early Byzantine coins.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely a Byzantine trachy! Something like this:

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But hopefully, someone more schooled in these will be able to narrow down the type.
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 Posted 01/23/2014  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spott to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had no Byzantine coins before this one! This is great! Now I am one coin closer to my end goal of one from everywhere [as well as everything really neat that I come across along the way].
Thanks!
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 Posted 01/24/2014  01:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As for what it is made form, I assume it looks coppery. It is therefore a trachy, made of billon - a very debased silver.

Definitely worth more than 10 cents - even unidentified and unidentifiable trachys should sell for a few dollars, at least.
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 Posted 01/24/2014  7:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcmworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It still is a copper coin! It's a Byzantine scyphate, a.k.a. asperon trachy, or "cup coin." I'll have to do some digging to find the emperor (going to have to go off of portrait type since all I see is a D hanging out there on the upper right quadrant. You can go to wildwinds.com and look for it though.
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 Posted 01/26/2014  02:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sheesh, that thing looks like a petroglyph put on a horseshoe crab. You guys are good.
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 Posted 01/26/2014  03:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing to get something that old for free from a junk bin at a coin shop! Very cool.
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 Posted 01/26/2014  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spott to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was amazed to find out what it is.
I check through their junk bin once a week if I can, and I think they are amused that I can tell what they've bought and tossed into the bin between my visits even though the bin is filled with a bazillion (rough estimate) of duplicate modern coins.
I think they are also tossing in things that didn't sell after being in their sale-price boxes, maybe just to hear me and my counterparts gasp in amazement when we discover them.
It is harder to see the marks on this trachy without strong light and a good magnifier, so maybe they figured it wouldn't sell as well as something else that now uses the shelf space.
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