TPG Grader Psychology.

I believe each coin is seen by two or three graders and a finalizer.
Some people will say try to get a coin upgraded at NGC and then send
it to PCGS for crossover. I have wondered if it is better to send
coins in raw or for crossover. If there is a bias because of the grade
other company gave it.

I sent these 2 coins in together.

I had posted here:

https://goccf.com/t/165427

and questioned whether sending them in together would throw up a red flag or add credence to their legitimacy.

As for ANACS the only coin I was disappointed with the grade but cannot disagree with the results since I found it in a roll and don't know the history of the coin is my 1892S Barber half.

Because of this thread I went looking for videos from NGC and PCGS on their grading process and was roundly impressed by both. I'd urge ANACS to do a similar video. Really interesting to see the process they go through.

If you really want to know if its profitable or not the financial filings for PCGS will tell the story. Theyre a publicly traded company under the US symbol of CLCT. PCGS has shown considerable growth the last two years since opening the offices overseas so either that "drying up" US market is exploding or they are making money outside the US. Its been some where around a 25% increase since 2010.

NGC is still privately owned so they dont have to disclose anything, but browsing around the population reports for either would give some idea of volume. As long as they arent making a lot of payouts it doesn't take massive amounts of submissions to be profitable.

PCGS Asia seems to be doing just fine in its infancy, the Europe website had way to many subsections of subsections of subsections of coins for me to spend more than a minute clicking around. If I had to guess from clicking around Asia seems to have had a better initial launch. There were so many European subsections I have no clue if I was looking at circulation pieces or commemorative or what, so I would doubt that I ended up looking at comparable sections. That said if you made me pick one Id still guess Asia has had more success.

I dont know if they are or not, but I believe their next quarterly report comes out on the 6th according to the stock quote websites. Their Europe office is in Paris, I dont read French but they may have to file something there as well if anyone does. I assume at the very last theyd have to do some sort of yearly tax reporting there.

I'd love to see a PCGS, NGC or ANACS branch in Australia with some Australian coin specialisation skills. The postage from the US including insurance is murder. My latest submission for postage and insurance alone is $135.
I'd even be happy with a recognised TPG here in Australia apart from one of those.
I can't see it happening though.

I agree there could some serious disparity between what a USA-based TPG might grade a coin, and the grade collectors in that country might give. My knowledge of the grading systems in Europe is limited to Scandinavia, where an "0", ie UNC coin needs to meet the same general criteria as for the US Sheldon system MS. So maybe you can help me understand grading situations where this isn't the case?

My general observation from frequenting forums is that American collectors are rather strict on grading US coins, but much more forgiving on 'foreign' coins. It's natural, really--we're best at what is most familiar to us. I also agree that US TPGs will have a very tough time breaking into the world markets--unless they open offices in those respective countries and hire local experts to do the grading. That's the only way TPGs could bring some real insight into their slabs. A cursory grade by a US-based firm isn't going to mean much.

Good question. I think someone asked the same thing up-thread. My answer was that I don't actually know, but was just figuring that in an orderly place like a TPG company, the coins might be looked at in the order they are listed on the form.