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New Member
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Edited by Pushthatbolder 02/26/2014 10:06 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This coin is so rare that it's probably not real. You need to send it to a grading service or an auction house such as Heritage to get a determination. The reeded edge seems peculiar, especially on a coronation piece. I would have expected lettering but I'm no expert. Edit: here's an 1841 marriage piece with reeded edge http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...tIdNo=291002Here's another one for comparison that sold for $31,625 in 2008. Looks like the third die. Edge reeding is visible in one of the photos. Also a pronounced Die Cud at 5 o'clock on the empress side, which your coin does not have. Heritage's description says that this is a diagnostic, so it must be present for the novodel to be genuine. http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...=22140#Photo
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 02/27/2014 10:12 am
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Australia
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Send it to an expert. I don't think there are much experts here who can vouch for it's authencity. Chances are it looks reasonably good but I have my reservations. Best of luck.
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United States
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It's an Eastern European copy. Sorry to say.
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New Member
 Australia
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@Numismat How do you know this? I would love to know
also, anybody know of a good coin grading service for this coin? somewhere I can get authenticity certificate done on it?
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United States
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Valued Member
Australia
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Since you're located in Australia, it's probably best to take it to Noble Numismatics. From memory, they sold a few similar ones at auction in 2012 - those coins sold to a Russian dealer who pretty much put insane opening bids to deter the competition and acquire them.
Again though, this is from memory, I'm not 100% sure.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Because the coin has all the markers of modern fakes made in Eastern Europe. The false patina, the crude nature of finer details such as the hair, and incorrect style of lettering (for example, the bottoms of the first two letters of ZLOT appear curved rather than straight with their serifs at sharp 90 degree angles).
Edited by Numismat 03/02/2014 11:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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...too good to be true. To come along one of these is not easy as most of them are in established collections and not cheap.
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United States
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This particular forgery appears on ebay quite regularly. It does not require a Russian specialist to determine it is a relatively recent numismatic forgery. The easiest way to spot the forgery is when the edge is shown. Notice the extremely irregular reeds. But even when just the faces are visible there is a lack of sharpness and artificial toning that is very typical. Once you have seen a couple dozen of these they get very easy to spot.
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