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1793 Wreath Cent

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This is the Sheldon variety S-6, R-3. Called by Crosby the Sprung Die variety. Per Breen, the variety was struck April 4-9 1793, with a estimated struck number of 8000 examples.

This particular example seems to be an early die state, with the bulge (later forming behind the hair) only barely visible, if at all. It has multiple small rim disturbances, mostly on the reverse, but compensates somewhat with a mostly smooth planchet devoid of porosity and corrosion, and a nice color. Ex Spinks London.

How would you grade it?

1793-Wreath-Cent

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 Posted 03/22/2014  09:34 am  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wonderful coin!, not knowing this series ill say VF-25.
ya big show off
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 Posted 03/22/2014  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, the dollar man, I really do not mean to come across that way.
But there is nobody over here I can share my collection with, and discuss.
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No, no it was a joke, I love viewing your collection, its truly beautiful! I want to see more so keep it up. I'm the one that should be sorry for coming off the wrong way.
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Pretty cool how you can narrow the mintage of a coin over 220 years old down to 5 days!
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VF-20 ?

She's a beauty! Please keep sharing pictures of your fantastic collection with us, we're all loving these coins!
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Great coin. I really enjoy viewing your coins. It's great to know you through this forum.
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VF-20.
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F-12?
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Wow.

I think we are seeing some obverse strike weakness.

Lovely problem free example :-)

VF25+
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Another beautiful coin with a smooth surface Germanicvs

I'm at VF25
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VF25 beauty
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Beautiful!! Keep them coming. Do you ever plan to slab?
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please consider getting your expensive coins slabbed......the protection and resellability will help!
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F12...Very nice! Good strike. Too much wear for a VF grade.
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Thanks as usual for all your comments and opinions.

I think Vermontensium's observation is correct regarding a weak obverse strike. The coin has a F12 obverse and a VF+ reverse; a weak obverse strike would be an explanation for that.

Yes, ideally I would like to have this, and some other coins slabbed. However, I fear that PCGS in this case may decline due to the reverse rim problems (?) I don't know enough about their acceptance criteria, but from what I have read, this would be the case. Another issue is of course the logistics of submitting coins, given my location.
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