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Rest in Peace
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Canada
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United States
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OH my. Date/MM not know for super strong strikes.
Shield - not detailed. Almost missing a rivet. Not a full head. Slight flatness on the leg. Not quite full breast feathers.
Ok...that is all that I can pick out.
With the luster. MS64. NICE!
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United States
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Ms 64 I think they give it fh. Either way really nice example
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Australia
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I see flat areas on the high points of the obverse:
1. hair on the side of Lib's head
2. knee of right leg.
I see no wear on the leading edge of the eagle's wing (rev.), so my assumption is that those flat areas on the obverse are due to not quite enough striking pressure, to allow them to be fully struck up, rather than any wear.
Rest of the coin appears to be quite nicely struck.
I notice that PCGS have been just slightly a little more generous than they have been in the past, so I think they graded this one at
MS64.
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United States
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MS64 not enough to go FH in the strike, but a really nice SLQ!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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WOW ms 64-65
Edit ms65
Edited by rupester
03/27/2014 01:52 am
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United States
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I can see it easily making MS-65 but not FH.
Strike is a bit soft for thinking above -65.
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United States
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MS63
From these photos, I do not see enough cartwheel under the toning to have it make 64 or higher. I do not profess to know the series as most of you but from a standpoint of discerning a point or two in grade based on mint luster and toning holding it back, I cannot see more than MS63.
nonetheless, sweet coin for the 7070. nice pick up
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United States
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Oh man, nice coin! I look forward to seeing what PCGS gave it. I was thinking high AU because I thought I saw friction on the knee but after reading everyone's response I realize I am probably just seeing things. Still need to learn how to grade these.  |
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United States
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At first glance I was thinking AU-58, but when I stopped and really looked at it I don't see wear... MS-63 imo.
-MV
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Thanks for the grades!! This coin got NO love from PCGS  ...But it presented a nice buying opportunity for me!!  I think the toning is attractive, and as you can see, there are absolutely NO noticeable marks on the coin...not even noticeable luster breaks. I do think I understand where PCGS is coming from, as the coin has a slight glossiness to the surfaces when viewed at a certain angle that is a bit unnatural looking....but does not detract from the overall beauty of this incredibly preserved SLQ!  |
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United States
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WOW! What a great opportunity for you. Congratulations on a great pick up!  |
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I'm not sure how I feel about cracking coins out of PCGS cases, just because of respect towards the grader.
Though the grader wouldn't care because he's already been paid and graded plenty more, it would feel like a waste of his time and someone's money...
Just my opinion.
Beautiful coin, though!
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United States
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Heck in a holder like that I'd crack it out too...but before I saw the Details grade it was making my stomach turn...LOL. I know a lot of folks don't really care too much if the coins are left in their holders, that is to say they maybe they have enough confidence in their own grading skillz that they don't need the opinion of a TPG to validate what they know, but to me on these older coins, if I have a top name TPG holder which says that the coin is an MS grade, it seems to me that the opinion by a TPG, regardless of leniency or agreement in how they grade, still counts toward a professional in the business looking at the coin and seeing it good enough for that grade. Just my opinion though... NICE NICE SLQ! That would go great in my 7070  BTW Is there any way to tell here how they came to the conclusion of it being cleaned? Is it something about the toning or the dark spots on the eagles wings?  |
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