Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
300,000 items to help build your collection! Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors Specializing in Modern Numismatics Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

1794 Large Cent - Grade And Variety - Please

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 2,417Next Topic
Page: of 2
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
cipster's Avatar
United States
2362 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  1:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This 1794 Large Cent arrived today and I freed it from the PCGS slab. I think it is the S-65 Shielded Hair variety Rarity 1 but would appreciate your opinions. There are so many 1794 varieties.

I'd also appreciate your opinions on grade and I'll reveal the PCGS grade in a day or two.

1794-Large-Cent---Grade-And-Variety---Please
1794-Large-Cent---Grade-And-Variety---Please
Member ANA and EAC

"You got to lose to know how to win".
Dream On by Aerosmith
Pillar of the Community
zxcccxz's Avatar
Canada
5417 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Grade should be around F with an obviously stronger obverse.
Pillar of the Community
philadelphian's Avatar
United States
3253 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  2:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like S-65 to me.
Pillar of the Community
GERMANICVS's Avatar
Germany
1849 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  3:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it almost certainly seems to be S-65. One can just about still see the die break between E and S on the reverse.
It is an appealing example with nice surfaces, and a weak reverse.
An overall grade of about F12 would seem correct.
Pillar of the Community
flippy's Avatar
Australia
1874 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add flippy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG10
Moderator
Learn More...
vermontensium's Avatar
United States
16677 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  7:05 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is S-65. I have one :-)

The obverse will carry it slightly, but I'm seeing wear not strike on the reverse.

VG10
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
CoinsKelly's Avatar
United States
3453 Posts
 Posted 03/22/2014  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinsKelly to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! That is a beauty .
Pillar of the Community
D0ubl3Eagle's Avatar
United States
5854 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  12:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will guess it graded VF-20 details. The obverse seems to have a number of crisscrossing hairlines and a greater concentration of dirt and light corrosion which seems to suggest to me it may have been cleaned and/or wiped a little bit. It is not unusual to find this with a weak reverse especially in latter die states. I think weakness in One Cent is mostly due to sinking die. Some of the weakness in America and in Liberty, as those are opposite one another, is due to the misalignment of the dies that characterizes this variety.
Pillar of the Community
supgog's Avatar
Israel
2420 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  04:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VG10 here.
Bedrock of the Community
Joseph7420's Avatar
Canada
11922 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joseph7420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
F-12.
Edited by Joseph7420
03/23/2014 11:43 am
Pillar of the Community
TJsCoins's Avatar
United States
3229 Posts
 Posted 03/23/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really nice coin Cipster!
I will net it at Fine.
New Member
squirre777's Avatar
United States
34 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squirre777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Net VG10
Pillar of the Community
Learn More...
cipster's Avatar
United States
2362 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cipster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all of your responses. The grade is PCGS Fine Details - cleaning. I'm not experienced enough to disagree, but just could not see the evidence of cleaning and really liked the smooth surface.


Quote:
crisscrossing hairlines and a greater concentration of dirt and light corrosion. It may have been cleaned and/or wiped a little bit.

Thanks D0ubl3Eagle for your insight into the evidence on the obverse.
Member ANA and EAC

"You got to lose to know how to win".
Dream On by Aerosmith
Edited by cipster
03/24/2014 09:52 am
Pillar of the Community
D0ubl3Eagle's Avatar
United States
5854 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I forgot to mention in my previous post that the concentration of dirt and corrosion seemed to greater around the edges of the devices like the cap and chin. Those areas are protected by the devices and where the old surface is most likely to survive something like a cleaning.
Edited by D0ubl3Eagle
03/24/2014 10:44 am
Pillar of the Community
Cruisinfusion's Avatar
United States
1531 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2014  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a kid, when I saw these coins, I always thought that her hat was flying away in the wind. Hehe.
Valued Member
United States
498 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2014  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin. If a seller offers enough of a discount I always buy cleaned coins. I believe 90% of all coins out there have been cleaned to some extent at some time. 1790's copper like that it wouldn't take a big discount either to entice me. Most have details grade for corrosion. I like your coin. Beautiful obverse.
  Previous TopicReplies: 16 / Views: 2,417Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.39 seconds to rattle this change. Forums