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1809 Half Cent Grading Please

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 Posted 04/07/2014  2:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add peanutbutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I picked up this piece today from my local coin shop. Its in a third party slab that I've never heard of. The grading seems to be accurate, but wanted to see if the experts agree and what price would be fair.

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Is it just me, or do the surfaces look unnatural......?
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 Posted 04/07/2014  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peanutbutter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what do you see that looks funny? hopefully its just the lighting. The middle picture is in natural light although its cloudy out today and the other 2 are under a lamp. Its also in a plastic holder
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I thought it was strange because the color looked to light. It looked just like the color of a cleaned wheatie I've seem.
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I think it is the lighting. In hand it is a much darker brown, but to show details I had to use a bright light.
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its in a numistrust slab so thats what has me worried. I paid 80 for it so hopefully didn't do too bad. its my first Half Cent
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VF30 seems right. You did fine on the price.
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 Posted 04/07/2014  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too would go along with about a VF something grade. Nice coin and, yes, was at one time cleaned but so what. Still a nice coin for one that is that old.
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My old eyes wish the reverse photo was larger. A lot of 09's have mushy obverse strikes, and the fairly sharp reverse makes me think what some see as wear might be strike. I would be inclined to go XF on this coin.

As far as cleaning goes, these photos are not sufficient for me to tell. The slightly redder high points on the obverse would point to an old cleaning, but they may be a photographic artifact.

It's the C-6 variety, which is not rare, but in my experience harder to come by than the C-5 (9/inverted 9 overdate).

Nice pickup at a good price!
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$80 is decent for that coin, although I can't attest to any old cleaning based on the photos.
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what can I look for to see if its been cleaned?
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Did you buy it from a dealer shop?
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Yes, its the only coin shop anywhere near where I live
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It is very hard to describe the signs of cleaning in words. Copper coins often don't show the parallel hairline scratches that are a dead giveaway in silver coins. Burnishing and chemical cleaning, rather than abrasive cleaning, seem like the more prominent methods.

I look for a uniform, all-over "sheen" or smoothness, unusual iridescence, ruddy high points, light toning in the field with dark around the devices, toning too uniform for the level of wear, devices without retained dirt in a worn coin, but most of all the look when rotated under a light source.

It is very hard to tell most of these warning signs from photos, even very good ones.

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