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1999 Lincoln's Ghost Penny ? Error ?

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1999 Lincoln's Ghost Penny ? ERROR ?

What do you all make of this?

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I would call it environmental damage with Two Cents laying head to tail
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I have a 1995 will that on only half of the rev by one cent. I think it from being in a roll that has gotten wet?
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I would agree with amac44. post mint but it looks very cool to me. I don't collect post mint damage but that one would find a frame or something in my home lol.
very cool find
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That's what it is - environmental damage, probably from a roll that was stored improperly.
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It is odd that this happens to be invironmental damage, in that I have some wheats, that have such a strong impression of the obv, very notable on the rev. I will relocate some, and photograph them, or it, as the case may be, in grayscale, to attempt to show the same, or similar effect.
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definitely environmental damage - I wouldnt call that an error of any kind. Still cool though
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I have seen this type of damage on what I call Mall pennies. They are removed from fountains at shopping malls. They are placed into rolls while the coins are still damp. The resulting contact plus the activity of the chemicals in the fountain water such as chlorine cause corrosion.

The corrosion in the rolls which is as stated before is environmental damage looks exactly like the coins seen above.

This is what I feel caused the damage as I've seen it many . many times before on coins deposited that were taken from fountains.

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livingdinasaur - Your wheats are a different effect and are caused by the mint. They aren't errors, but are sometimes interesting nonetheless. They are caused by die wear - constant pressure where the two dies meet tend to pass their impressions to one another after a few hundred thousand strikes. The molecules of the steel die change in alignment with different forces of pressure, and eventually start chipping away unevenly. Often this uneven chipping will show best where there are grave changes in relief on the die - like around the bust. The result is a ghost indentation of Lincoln on the reverse in the fields.

What we are looking at in this thread is a coin with coloration of another coin showing on the devices. There is no change in relief where the color changes occur. This is a simple case of a wet coin transferring a chemical change to another coin due to whatever caused the moisture...often laying in rust, heavy ferrous content water, or water with chemical treatment such as fountains or swimming pools. foundinrolls stated the most common place where these come from - wishing fountains in malls and parks. These fountains are usually treated with chemicals such as chlorine, and often contain rusting steel plumbing that will act corrosively on the coins contained in the water with the rust.
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poor abe only 8 years old and very dirty...
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Great thread! Really enjoyed the info.
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