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Is This Thing Real (Seated Dollar)

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1843-Seated...em3f3584ba40

I don't believe it is as it looks kind of grainy and seems to have some weakness on the left side of the reverse. Is that correct?
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 Posted 05/12/2014  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rollsearcher37 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything on this coin that would make me doubt its authenticity. The weakness on the reverse could be due to wear, a weak strike, or a grease-filled die.

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 Posted 05/12/2014  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The brown areas on the obverse rim look suspiciously like rust.
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 Posted 05/12/2014  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcstone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I call fake on that one, some of the denticles look like they are detached from the rim.
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I would have to say no. I believe I see pitting on both obverse and reverse, combine that with weak talons, the wonky O in "Of" and overall weakness means no real to me.
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That Seller has another Seated dollar listed, too. Both look suspicious to me and they are about the same condition-wise. They have a lot of cheap coins/notes listed along with the Seated dollars. All that does is raise questions in my mind.

When in doubt, don't.
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Both Seated dollars are fake. Two different dates with the same divot in the letter O in OF. (along with all mentioned above).
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Counterfiet.
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The 1840 currently listed clearly looks fake. All sorts of weaknesses like missing feathers and improper denticles plus blobs of metal between various letters..
and it has a three hundred ninety nine bid.
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Seeing more and more of this; so sad.
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Don't know much about US coins, but I agree, the Seated Liberty looks grainy and the weakness in the reverse is suspicious. The reverse denticles are also rather bad looking especially on the right.
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Yikes look at this seller's previous sales, looks like they have sold a few.
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Agree both are counterfeit. When you've seen enough of them you realize they have a certain look to them. We should be reporting these to ebay whenever we see them.
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Maybe this seller needs to be turned in and not be able to continue with these sales. Pretty hard to deal with this situation.
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I would say fake also, looks like weakness is weird areas and pitting all along the dies.
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The more I look, the more I see. This Seller has an earlier history of selling high end Seated quarters sandwiched in between other listings of common everyday "stuff" like tools, etc. If the truth were known, and the Seated Qtr pics were still available, I'd suspect they were questionable coins, too.

Looks like they have now graduated to the fake Seated dollar scam. (Bigger coins equal bigger money!). Most likely, when the Buyer receives the coin and realize its fake, they contact the Seller and will get the "I'm so sorry, I didn't realize it was fake" song and dance and then immediately have their money refunded. The Buyer feels "bad" for them but still leaves "good" feedback even though the coin was counterfeit. (THAT, I do not understand!)

They were also obviously trying to "up" their feedback numbers but got nailed with a neutral when they kept "bugging" someone to leave them feedback. (An ebay unwritten rule for all Sellers --- Never, ever beg or ask for Feedback!)

We can report this stuff all day long but ebay just takes their sweet time investigating it. With the Seller running 3-day auctions, by the time ebay gets around to investigating it the auction has already ended.

It's just a vicious, never ending cycle that just keeps getting worse.
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