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Having Internal Conflict Here-Coin Stolen By Trusted Friend

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 Posted 05/25/2014  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm sorry that this happened to you. It's always sad when a friend lets you down.

I don't think there was any misunderstanding because he waited until you weren't looking to take it.

But then I do think it was a misunderstanding because he wouldn't show you a photo of the coin if he stole it.

So -- since the coin is special to you, go ask for it back. You may have to buy it back, but if it was me, I'd do it because it would eat away at me that he got it. I'd rather pay for it twice and have it than not have it.

Anyway, claiming that there must have been a misunderstanding will allow him to 'save face' and you won't be accusing him, so he should not get too defensive.

Again, I'm sorry this happened to you, but it's a good reminder to all of us to be careful with our collections.
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 Posted 05/25/2014  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm in a really uncomfortable situation. That fellow collector is a good buddy of mine, so I don't want to make negative relationships. However, I certainly do want that Merc back.

Maybe and maybe not. Difficult to prove is he says your wrong if you mention this to him. I'm sure you mentioned how much it ment to you when you showed it to him. All is now in the past. Best thing to do is never, ever show him anything. Never ever trust him again. I say consider this a harsh lesson but a lesson for sure.
Odd this reminds me of when I was a kid. A friend of mine invited a bunch of us kids over to his house. He showed us all a bunch of Proof sets. The next day he told us all one some were now missing. That was all he said and walked away. He never spoke to any of us again.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frodo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
confront him....is he a liar also?
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 Posted 05/26/2014  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steal it back? I know, I'm a terrible person. If you don't like that advise you can offer to buy it back.

But for real:
I would evaluate how much this friend means to you. A dime is a worthless disc of metal, but a friend is forever. If you want him as your friend you can just "forget" that it happened, never bring it up, and just never discuss coins again or trade. If you became friends purely over coins then you know what's up and he sold his trust for a dime.
All of this depends on your character and the strength of your friendship. A real friend will understand the "value" of this coin to you beyond its monetary weight.
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05/26/2014 12:22 am
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 Posted 05/26/2014  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You could go and talk to the local police about him. You may not press charges, but at least the cops will know there's a thief in the neighborhood.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone for all the advice.
I asked my "collector friend" if he had taken it by accident.
The "collector friend"'s reply was:
"Dude, there are more than just one 1944 merc out there. I just happen to have the same kind of coin as the one you lost."
Obviously, he lost the chance to be honest and ask for forgiveness.

Now, with the "collector friend" disagreeing with my rightful ownership of the Merc, I really have no way to get that coin back. I do not have any photos of the dime or the 2x2 it was originally housed in. I haven't got any evidences to say that it is my dime. Lesson learned: always take good pictures of your coins if it is valuable/ means a lot to you. It will come in handy one day.

I was actually the one to get the "collector friend" into collecting. I've taught the "collector friend" many valuable collecting tips and information, went to coin shops with the "collector friend," and I've even given some of
my coins to the "collector friend" to get him hooked in collecting. I am now left with feelings of disappointment. I feel betrayed.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SmallEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm very doubtful that he took it. I don't think anyone has the gall to steal something dear to you and then show it to you as theirs. Could you have misplaced it? Is it on the floor somewhere, under a book, under the bed? It's non-sentimental value is $2, not worth losing a friendship over, and his behavior doesn't sound like he is being malicious. I would search everywhere possible first, and see if any family members could have taken or spent it.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BamaBlue to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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a simple "hey when you were gathering your purchase coins you didn't happen to grab my special merc by accident did you?" would probably be the best non-confrontational way to handle things.


I agree with Wade. There's always a chance that there was a simple mis-understanding. The reaction to a question like this will tell you everything you ned to know about your friend.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Matteproof to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He asked me if I'd sell that 1944 Merc to him; that's why I explained to him that it was very special and I would never sell it. I made that clear.
Crystal clear.

From the pictures of the coin the details (the wear, tone, and some wax residue on the coin) all point to mine. Replaced in a brand new 2x2 holder, yet my exact descriptions that I wrote in the original holder are written word-for-word there on the replaced holder. Just don't have evidence to prove it. I couldn't have misplaced that one-- it went straight back to my 2x2 box after showing.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add frodo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply




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I'm very doubtful that he took it. I don't think anyone has the gall to steal something dear to you and then show it to you as theirs. Could you have misplaced it? Is it on the floor somewhere, under a book, under the bed? It's non-sentimental value is $2, not worth losing a friendship over, and his behavior doesn't sound like he is being malicious. I would search everywhere possible first, and see if any family members could have taken or spent it.


I am sorry, I respect your opinion but disagree with it

he obviously took the coin,
you stated it is not worth loosing a friendship over
THEIR is no friendship. that ship sailed and sunk when he pocketed this mans coin.
to me..it matters not if the value is 1 cent or a million dollars...theft is theft..a thief is a thief

I will get flamed for this....punch him in the nose!
it will not settle anything,
some times a man gotta do what a man gotta do!

OK.....FLAME ON!!!
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05/26/2014 12:25 pm
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 Posted 05/26/2014  12:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Matteproof...............


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Deep internal conflict here.
"To choose friendship or Merc, that is the question!"


You do what you need to do.........

If I were in your shoes......

He is not your friend......

Doubt you will get your Dime back....

The idea of him ever being in my home, turns my stomach.

Cheats, lairs, thieves are a "DIME" a dozen.

Dump him ... and then get over it.

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 Posted 05/26/2014  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let's say for argument's sake you forgive him.

What tells you that he will not repeat a similar case like this again?
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 Posted 05/26/2014  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Friends do not steal from friends.

Since you confronted him and he denied the theft then you have choices to make.

Let it slide or call him a liar.

The friendship has the huge cloud over it no matter what you do.
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 Posted 05/26/2014  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Again, I'm sorry this happened to you. I'm glad you tried to fix things but sorry that it didn't go well.

Personally, I find unacknowledged betrayal impossible to forget. There are better people in the world than your former friend. A lot of them show up here every day.

Rest in Peace
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 Posted 05/26/2014  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Through out life you will find that friends will come and go and it appears it's time for this one to go. Sorry for both of your losses.
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