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1897-S Morgan Dollar

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Hi guys! This is my latest pickup. Opinions on the grade would be appreciated!

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VF-25.
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Enough left to make VF30, I think, but that rim ding visible on the reverse might bring it down that one extra notch.
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There's a little too much wear on Liberty's hair for a VF-30.

I'd say VF-25.
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Vf-30 details.

This coin has most definitely been cleaned.
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What makes you say "definitely cleaned"? It seems like I see at least one comment calling a coin "cleaned" on almost every thread posted for grading a coin. I'm legitimately curious, because I'm not sure what makes it obvious if a coin has been cleaned or not.
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I'm going to go with VF25 on this one, based on PCGS photograde.
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What makes you say "definitely cleaned"? It seems like I see at least one comment calling a coin "cleaned" on almost every thread posted for grading a coin. I'm legitimately curious, because I'm not sure what makes it obvious if a coin has been cleaned or not.


I'm interested as well, because I see no indication that this one's been cleaned. Just typical lighting artifacts of digital photography. Doesn't mean it hasn't been cleaned, but I'm not seeing a smoking gun. Carnold74, fully half of the skill required to grade coins in online images is knowledge of the photographic process and how differing techniques translate into differing looks on the screen.
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Quote:
What makes you say "definitely cleaned"? It seems like I see at least one comment calling a coin "cleaned" on almost every thread posted for grading a coin. I'm legitimately curious, because I'm not sure what makes it obvious if a coin has been cleaned or not.


Couple reasons:

1. There are areas of tarnish/dirt surrounding all of the protected areas, which is indicative of a past cleaning because a brush can't easily reach and clean these areas.

2. On the obverse, there is a shinyness that is usually not present on coins of this sharpness. This may be a result of the camera and the lighting, so this characteristic is not necessarily indicative of a cleaning.
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VF-30.
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