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1999 Australian 1999 Ten Cent

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Formerly nancyc
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 Posted 08/15/2014  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are some images I have of the 2 varieties of the 1999 10c. I have read somewhere that there may also be a difference in the numerals, specifically the 9, having either short tails or long tails, but until I locate these 2 coins, I can't verify that bit of info and I don't think my images are good enough to be able to make that differentiation, but I have cropped the dates anyway and show them, but I didn't get them in exactly the same position. Sorry, best I can do.

Small Head, note the distance between the letters and the rim.
1999-Australian-1999-Ten-Cent

Large Head, letters now noticeably closer to rim.
1999-Australian-1999-Ten-Cent

Date Comparison.
1999-Australian-1999-Ten-Cent
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 Posted 08/20/2014  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Nancy, the three nines on the top coin are noticeably different, is this just camera angle?
The tails appear to curl at a wider angle from acute to obtuse. My guess is from about 40 degrees to about 55 degrees. It can be seen in the picture of the dates you provide also, but less obviously.
On the first coin the tails curl in sequence from obtuse, average to acute.
On the second coin the 9's appear to be 2 of the acute type and one of the obtuse. [no middle]
Surely it is just the camera angle though. Or am I just mad?
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 Posted 08/20/2014  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As soon as I can, I'll dig them out and take some really close up shots of the dates. I have to admit the 9's do look a little different.
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 Posted 08/21/2014  02:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have found 2 1999 small head tens and the 9 of the 19 appears to be a slightly different style to the 99 of the year. The 9's of the 99 have a slighly more acute angle to the curl, but this is making a very fine distinction. You can see this in Nancy's date comparison if you look hard enough.
It is like back in the days of hand punched dates where they had a universal 19 and just updated the year, I wonder if they did modify an old die. Seems unlikely to me.
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 Posted 08/21/2014  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Large head (letters near the rim) is far more rare than the small head (far from rim). It has taken me a few years to find a large head at/near mint state.
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 Posted 08/21/2014  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bkh2015 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Mr.Tan what mean is close to rim not included in photo. But take alook of both coins it seems they are differrent between them on ELIZABETH II, one is far and one is middle.

If is true there three variety for this year?
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 Posted 08/23/2014  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've only ever known about 2 varieties of this coin.

Here are some close-ups of the dates, one thing I can see is that the middle 9 appears to be smaller on both versions.

10c 1999 Date Comparison Lge Head v Sml Head
1999-Australian-1999-Ten-Cent

I have a container with 23 of the large head type and only 1 small head type, but I did a project on the errors to be found on this coin some time ago, and have another container somewhere with over 30 coins in it, so maybe some of those are small head.
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 Posted 08/25/2014  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darge to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My God Nancy you never fail to deliver. Hope the large heads turn out to be valuable for you.
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The two that I know of have nothing to do with "Die pressures". The ten cent with letters close to rim touch the rim and the queen's head is larger. The one with the letters about 1mm away from the rim has a smaller queens' head-they are very different.
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I only see a small and medium head in these pictures NO LARGE HEAD. Yes it does exist and it is very rare..!
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Correction-didn't see the previous post for some reason. The large obverse is rarer especially in anything in AU and above.
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@Mr.Tan what mean is close to rim not included in photo. But take alook of both coins it seems they are differrent between them on ELIZABETH II, one is far and one is middle.

If is true there three variety for this year?


The other side of the coin (AUSTRALIA) seems to show a uniform distance though. Some of the 1999 coins have a double struck rim which makes it difficult to work out what you have.
I'm only aware of two varieties for the 10c.

jerry do you have a comparison photo of the small, medium and large heads?
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PCGS just authenticated this variety....
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Is there a medium head?
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There was one so called "Medium head noted by a dealer in Sydney-whether valid or not-don't know. However, only a large and small head have been recognized so far by PCGS.
The large head is scarce.
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