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Just For Fun - Really Bad Fakes

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I mean the kinds of counterfeits that shouldn't be able to be foisted off on Mr. Magoo. Pathetically phony classic dollars, 8 reales, thalers, whatever.

I'll start it off with my "zombie" eagle cap and rays (the snake's sort of got the zombie thing going, too). This one's nonferrous, with the plating (tin?) wearing off in one area exposing the base metal beneath.

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You realize these can be highly collectible, right?
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jerseyben Posted - Today 2 Min ago
You realize these can be highly collectible, right?

Contemporary counterfeits are collected by numismatists and they could be highly collectible and even valuable in some cases. However, mass-produced, modern Chinese counterfeits hold none or minimal value.
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Contemporary counterfeits are collected by numismatists and they could be highly collectible and even valuable in some cases. However, mass-produced, modern Chinese counterfeits hold none or minimal value.

Not necessarily true. Depends on where you are and who the buyers are. I've seen dealers selling those Chines Fake Dollar coins for a decent price. Nothing exceptional, but a fake China made Dollar can sell for from $54 to $25. Naturally depending on the quality. Some are made with pure Silver and those sell for the most. I've seen some all Lead ones selling for a Quarter though.
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Please excuse my ignorance, any suggestions for a novice collector on spotting counterfeits? I realize experience and knowing the seller plays an important role, but what advice or rule of thumb should I follow when coins show up at yard sales, antique stores or swap meets? Is there literature on the subject? Thanks for the news about coins from China.
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The advice given most often is to gain experience by looking at lots of coins, whether at shows or shops. Join a coin club. Ask dealers and advanced collectors if they've seen a fake of such and such a coin, and how they detected it. For the cruder fakes, they may often be made of steel, so a magnet will stick to them, which absolutely shouldn't be the case with a genuine gold or silver coin. So carrying a magnet to the untraditional marketplaces in which coins may appear is a must. A pocketable scale and knowing what you're looking at ought to weigh can also avoid being taken in when out and about in such places. The real hazard, though, are genuine coins that have been altered into forgeries of rarer and more valuable variants. These can be very tough to pick up on, so the advice in that case is if it appears at a swap meet or on Craig's List or another online venue, and the deal seems too good to be true - well, it probably is.

I wasn't intending to stir up such serious discussion - the title of the thread says "Just For Fun" so doesn't anybody have a laughably atrocious attempt at fakery to share?

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This could become a very cool thread, I'll need to keep an eye on it!

Liberty Bell, over in the Canadian forum there's a member named nickelsguy or Mike Marshall, he sells CD's from time to time with over 400 images of fakes. He's been very instrumental in leading a crusade against counterfeits on ebay. He also works. With a RCMP officer. Just google mike Marshall & fakes , there's several interesting articles on his work. He's been at it since 2009.
Liberty Bell you'll find the forum & it's members a wonderfully informative resource. I truly hope you'll enjoy & benefit from your time here!!
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