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Valued Member
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I did a search on obtaining a degree in numismatics and only came up with limited information. From what I can gather there is only one PhD and few BSs in the US. It also seems to be tightly connected to metallurgy.
Anybody here have a degree in it? What institutions offer classes on the subject? Would it actually be worth the effort or worth anything at all?
Apologies if this has been covered already, I did a forum search and found zero.
Rick
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Pillar of the Community
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Vienna University has a numismatics department.....I believe they still prefer you to have language skills in Latin and ancient greek
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Rest in Peace
United States
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This is a great question! Quote: I believe they still prefer you to have language skills in Latin and ancient greek  I know there a number of members who have these skills. Sap is the first one that comes to mind  . Along with a number of Ancient coin collector members. 
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Here's one old thread on the subject. Degrees specializing in numismatics are scarce and obviously only for very serious numismatists, not just for your average coin collector or coin dealer. Most of the degrees you could find, especially from European institutions, will be oriented towards ancient and mediaeval coins. If you do any kind of archaeology degree (again, mainly European-oriented), they're going to cover the study of coinage to some depth, because coins provide very useful dating evidence.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Now that is an interesting question. I've heard of so many college degrees on stuff like Basket Weaving, Tennis, Photography, computers, Auto repairing and on and on and on. So why not a college set up for Hobbies? A degree in Coins, Stamps, etc. I'd bet such a place would get filled fast. On TV there are so many colleges, Universities, miscellaneous educational institutes, so why not one for Hobbies? They could have classes on model building, coins, stamps, trains and so many more.
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Quote: Now that is an interesting question. I've heard of so many college degrees on stuff like Basket Weaving, Tennis, Photography, computers, Auto repairing and on and on and on. So why not a college set up for Hobbies? A degree in Coins, Stamps, etc. I'd bet such a place would get filled fast. I wouldn't be brave enough to say that to someone at the Vienna Numismatic institute. They are located with the Archeology department and have been around for a very long time. The prerequisites for admission used to be Ancient Greek and latin( ie you had to have those qualifications before they would accept you) some of their staff have been involved in unravelling axumite coinage. Often they are out on Archeological digs. Here a coin collector is a coin collector and nothing more, a numismatist is a seriously respected academic!
Edited by austrokiwi 06/19/2014 04:35 am
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you Austrokiwi. I'm proud to be an American, but sometimes Americans need a reality check. All to often, in my culture, one can be an expert by choosing to be an expert, and not by earning the right to be called expert.
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Bedrock of the Community
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To the best of my knowledge there have been only two degrees awarded in the United States in Numismatics. Don Kagin has a PhD in Numismatics and Jonathan Kern has a BA in Numismatics.
In both cases the degree was issued by a Liberal Arts College that had a "design your own degree" program where the student could disign his own degree program and with the approval of a faculty adviser could earn his own specialized degree. Ther have been several colleges that have offered courses in numismatcs but no regular degree programs.
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Quote: Latin Romanes eunt domus? Quote: Is it worth it? Well, the debt ill incure (even doing a STEM Subject) getting my degree is over 12 years at my current annual salary (well, I am part time, but still). Put simply, if I'm going to spend such ridiculous sums of money, I'm going to make sure I get an actual usable degree at the end (for example, no-one hires someone with a degree in Forensics when they could hire someone with a degree in Chemistry). Perhaps 'Degree' means something else in America? I mean, design-a-degree seems pretty suspect, and I fail to see how you could possibly get a degree in basket weaving. How would you stretch it out into 3 years? Indigenous peoples do it without spending years studying it. What is the system?
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The Vienna university degrees are worth it: IF you are looking at an Academic career only. The really focus on ancients and middle ages. they use the study of coins to tell them what the history books can't...well to be honest they help write some of the history books
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: Perhaps 'Degree' means something else in America? I mean, design-a-degree seems pretty suspect, and I fail to see how you could possibly get a degree in basket weaving. How would you stretch it out into 3 years? Oddly enough in the USA a degree is very, very important ion most buisnesses. One place I used to work had a company newspaper. In it they constantly bragged about the quantity of degreed people in their emply. And they even noted the different types such as Associate, Bachlers, Masters and Doctorates. This company newspaper was distributed to many clients and prospective clients. Another place I worked went as far as false stating people with degrees that worked there and only paid them to allow the use of their names and degrees. I've heard many clients request such info from organizatioins and actually believe a company with a lot of degreed people is the place for their projects. I do think degrees in subjects like Numismatics would accomplish little in the way of getting a job though.
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Pillar of the Community
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I had never heard of an Associate Degree. We have the Foundation Degree in the UK (which might actually hinder you when applying for jobs).
Thing is, everyone and their dog has a batchelors degree these days. A masters is required to set yourself apart now.
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Pillar of the Community
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George Brown College used to have a numismatics program. I would've maybe taken it but I was looking at the last year they did it, but I'm 100% sure that going to school for coins would've sucked the fun out of it. You don't need a degree to be a collector or a dealer.
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Valued Member
United States
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I completed the ANA Diploma program a few months back, below is a link to the thread. I would say it was worth it, and this is probably the closest you will get to a "numismatic degree" without shelling out big $$$$$. https://goccf.com/t/176885
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Pillar of the Community
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Well in that older thread, SAP posted that Donald Kagin was the first to receive a Ph.D. in numismatics, I came here to say that, but he already did. Don's father Art was one of my main mentors in the coin business as I was coming up the ranks in the early to mid 1980's a giant of a man in the business, it sure didn't surprise me at all that his son followed in his footsteps and went as far as getting a degree in numismatics. Chip off the old block! Don is a nice guy that has a very broad grasp of all subjects relating to numismatics, he specializes in territorial gold, and is currently handling the famous "Saddle Ridge Hoard" of recently discovered gold coins from Northern California. I have often thought of going after the ANA degree, but just haven't had the time to devote to it the way I know I should. Perhaps in the near future I will tackle it. Thanks for the link to your experience MrMorgan! Maybe I do have the time after all.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440
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