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Is It Possible To Help Old, Disintegrating Banknotes?

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They had suffered from really poor storage for the past few years and I don't know whether I received it like this or was it like this from the start. They were wrapped in a food grade plastic bag, to keep them straight, and I don't think there should be any PVC in them. Either way I feel a bit guilty that I didn't pay attention to them sooner , being a hoarder instead of a collector. I wasn't a collector yet at the time I left to Canada, so I just actually paid any attention to them now. So is there a way to help or restore them at this point?

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This is the biggest denomination, it's a bit hard to believe my grandma put away 10000 in 1979 because that is a LOT of money back then, it was a time when tiny single digit denominations were circulating. It might have an error having no serial numbers but it might be tampered with, hard to believe no one noticed the serials were missing for that long. Unfortunately I couldn't find anything about it not having serials.

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 Posted 07/03/2014  03:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I myself use food-grade plastic bags and keep them in folders. This I've found keeps them in a stable condition. You might also keep them within the pages of a large (heavy) book.
Folds, corner ones especially, can be straightened but very carefully to avoid tearing. But you'll never get rid of creases I'm afraid and the cost of conservation (renovation)is way too expensive for notes in the condition and value you have.
One other tip: never, never sellotape any tears. Better to leave them as they are.
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 Posted 07/03/2014  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are note holders, just as there are coin holders.

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 Posted 07/03/2014  11:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't bring enough banknote holders home and I'm not sure where to get them here (and I can't go to places alone either here, so that's also a problem), so most will have to stay in the plastic. The Rp10000 (this one's in a holder) has a tear down the top middle that's got sellotape on it, I didn't know who put it there. Is there a safe way to remove it? The sides are already falling apart and I think the person who put it there was thinking it would help.

I don't know the cost of conservation/renovation, but if it's within my price range the Rp10000 note is one I want to do it on.
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For now, your best bet is to get the notes catalogued as to value and into PVC-free plastic holders. You should be able to get PVC-free holders online or a local coin shop. (They usually run about 50 cents each at our local shop. Online I get them from Denly's of Boston here in the US)

Some notes may not be worth the price of a holder but that's up to you.

As far as the tape removal goes it's tough. If the tape has stained the note it's even tougher. There are some professional document conservation services out there but they are expensive.

Enjoy your notes.
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The tape mustn't have been ppaced there long before I got this note, it looks like today's kind of clear tape (not like the ones holding coins in a stack, those are yellow or blue and they stained the coins, and they're very brittle now) and it hasn't stained the note yet. Not a good idea to pull it off by myself, you can use the sellotape in Indonesia to pull chunks of paint off the wall.

I don't know if there are any dealers in Jakarta, and I can't shop online for stuff either. The notes will have to wait until I can get them to Canada. I couldn't bring my coin supplied back home, not enough luggage mass allowance.

If I send this off to a TPG, will they do any conservation (e.g. take off the tape)?
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You could try to remove it yourself. You could use some solvent (like alcohol or acetone but both are extremely volatile) to soak the note in to soften up the tape and tape residue. Follow all safety rules and label warnings when using solvents.

You could also try to slowly remove the tape by pulling on one edge -----SLOWLY---- and see if the tape comes off clean. If you see any paper fibers from the note begin to come off STOP pulling.

I am not sure if any of the TPG's practice conservation services. You should contact them directly and ask.

Good luck and enjoy your notes.
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I don't dare pull off the tape, it'll have to wait until I bring it to Canada because I have acetone there. It wouldn't turn the paper into something super-flammable or something like that, and it won't take the ink off the paper right?

I could try contacting a TPG, which TPG is most popular for World banknotes?
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 Posted 07/04/2014  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ichirensha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a link to an uncirculated 10,000 Rupiah note on ebay for $24.99. It'd probably be much cheaper than having yours conserved. The note is in Jakarta too!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Indonesia-1...em58ae5fb364
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I've heard of that shop before, it's in ITC Kuningan. I can't get there (no one to send me, Jakarta road isn't pedestrian-friendly), and I don't shop online either. Takes a bit longer to find what I want but I usually get what I want, just by depending on my luck.

The reason I want mine conserved is because if it is legit with no serials (it doesn't seem to have any) it might be something numismatically special. It's already special to me, it was a gift from my grandma. If I can conserve it, it will be something I can enjoy without fear of it disintegrating in my hand. I might need a new rigid banknote holder.
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